Maybe it's just me, but do people REALLY find having their clothes literally torn off their bodies erotic? I sure don't. I am reading a book just know, an erotica, and quite a hot one at that. As is often found in romance and erotica alike, there is the one scene where the characters are so incensed with lust that they can't wait and they guy rips the woman's blouse right down the middle.
If it were me in the middle of a sexy encounter like that and a guy tore my clothing from my body, destroying it, I'd be ticked off! I can actually visualize it in my mind, the guy tears my shirt apart, I stop smack in the middle of his seduction and rant "what the h*ll are you doing? I paid $50 bucks for that shirt and you just ruined it!" I keep hoping someone will take the comedic side of this scenario and include it in a romantic comedy. Having the heroine do just that when the guy is so obviously trying to impress her with his strength and passion.
I guess it's the whole idea of someone being so wrapped up in passion for you that they can't wait for you to undress and have to ruin your clothing since you can't take it off fast enough. Some probably find that a turn on but I'd just be furious over a ruined pice of clothing.
That's what irked me about the book I'm reading. the heroine is pretty much bankrupt and took her current job for the sole purpose of paying off her debts so she can try again at a "real" job. So it's so out of character for a penny pincher like her to only say "oh wow" when her lover destroys one of the few pieces of clothing she owns suitable for the professional world.
What do you think about the "bodice ripper" or "panty ripper" or "bra ripper" insert item of clothing here?








re: bodice rippers
I completely agree! It's been a while since I've read one where the hero tore off her blouse, but I've seen a few recently where he ripped off her panties. Even that would make me angry--it's hard to find comfortable underwear! I'd like to keep mine intact, please!
Also, I feel like fabric is tougher than the authors realize...wouldn't it be somewhat uncomfortable having someone pull on your clothes hard enough that they rip? I'm thinking particularly about elastic-waist panties...that elastic snapping back on you...ouch! Or...wait, is this just me admitting that I don't wear sexy enough underwear?
Your scene with the heroine's reaction to the $50 blouse being ripped off her would be awesome...I'd love to see that in a romcom.
re: bodice rippers
I'm SOOO glad I'm not alone in that feeling. And what you said about the fabric tough to tear... I'm with you! That would really hurt if they kept yanking trying to tear it and it didn't give!
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re: bodice rippers
Heh, now I'm picturing a further scene...the hero yanking and yanking..."No, wait, I've almost got it...ouch...wait...let me try my teeth...oh crap, that was the one I needed the root canal on..." and then an emergency trip to the dentist...SO romantic!
Saner heads shall prevail...
Kelley you really have a point... I'd be royally teed off if someone started ripping my clothes... it'd surprise me no end first though. LOL
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Well, I don't know....
Doesn't it depend on who is doing the ripping?
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and...
I guess the spontaneity would be lost, if he had to run for the scissors...
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RE: Well, I don't know
I don't think it would make any difference for me. No matter how caught up in the moment I was, I'd still be mad they tore up my clothes! LOL
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I've read a couple of books
I've read a couple of books where panties have been torn off, and my thought is always ow, yes. Buttons on blouses don't bug me as bad, but panties?
Mine don't rip that easy. Unless they're made of paper or that edible fruit leather stuff, I don't think any do.
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I was ROFLMAO over your teeth comments.
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I would have to agree....
LOL I imagine I wouldn't care all that much about a pair of panties! And in the right setting............
Ok, going to shut up now! LMAO
You could always carry an
You could always carry an emergency kit on dates, and make certain to have a small pair of scissors and a sewing kit in there, just in case.
Ok, i was Kidding! LOL
Don't know where the heck i am...but i just had to comment. lol
Kathy
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LOL
It's been a while for me too(to have read a story where their clothes are literally ripped off). What you say makes total sense and makes me laugh. As someone who is conscious of 'money' I would tend to agree with you... that fab lover
would be buying me a new shirt.
Cole
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But I LIKE that shirt...
My issue would be this...
I'm on a date with a hot guy so I probably like him. So I probably want to impress him. So I probably wore one of the 2 or 3 outfits I actually like and feel good in.
And he RIPPED part of it?
What am I supposed to wear on the next date? It's not as if my entire wardrobe is "date worthy." Most of it isn't even "walk the dog" worthy.
Hey, how about that? If he starts to rip and then she says, "Wait just a sec until I change into my painting clothes. I don't care what happens to them!"
[insert scene where she reappears in 3 sizes too-large flannel shirt and holey sweats left behind by ex-boyfriend.]
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Ellen's painting clothes
ROFL Ellen. That would SOO be me. I only have a limited supply of 'date-worthy" attire so i'd be ratehr pt out to have it ruined. And I LOVE the whole holey sweat and flannels thing.
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new clothes
you and me both Cole. You ca be certain if he did that to me I'd make him give me the money to replace it!
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Great post, I would
Great post, I would definately be annoyed if my hubby ripped my clothes, the only guy who I buy this with is Roarke - hey, he buys all of Eve's clothes anyways and she doesn't care, so for him it works, otherwise, not so much.
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Too Funny
Hmmm....Maybe we should wear our painting clothes on our dates and save a step.
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dressing down for dates
There you go! That's the perfect solution! and it does doule duty. If they can be attracted to us when we're dressed like that, then that's a sign they may be worth keeping around. In addition to saving our pretty clothes from destruction.
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can't breathe, laughing too hard...
This is the greatest discussion ever, I think. I'm loving everyone's comments!
I love Ellen's idea of changing clothes (heh, and "walk the dog worthy). Kelley: definitely, someone who doesn't mind my flannel pants is a keeper!
Kathy: The emergency scissors & sewing kit is a great idea. You should patent that and sell it...
In theory I'm hot in my painting clothes...
The theory of dressing down for dates is a good one.
In reality, I think there's something to be said for saving that type of surprise for after the wedding...
The emergency sewing kit would be a big hit. What if it came with a spare shirt? Like those tiny plastic rain hats my Granny used to keep folded up in her purse. Hee!
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Very funny!
My thought/concern is always: how is she going to get home with all that torn clothing?
Thankfully that problem will be solved with Kathy/Ellen's sewing kit with the spare clothing.
LOL Cady about it being ok
LOL Cady about it being ok if Roarke rips your clothes off, but not your hubby! I somehow missed this comment.
Kathy
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When has ripped ever been sexy?
Personally I don't think this type of action is sexy at all. It would kill it for me if that happened. I think I'd ask him to leave, ot take his shirt and high tail it outa there.
However, if I had a sewing kit, I might make him wait until I fixed it, or better yet make him do it. Hehehehe...
In reality I'm Sadie Sadie Married Lady, so all my date worthy clothes became too small after the 2nd kid came along. I'm more the dog walking wordrobe now-a-days. And Hubby doesn't complain about it, he doesn't like it, I know, but he doesn't complain.
To date, he hasn't ever ripped anything off my body, except maybe lint or fuzz or something unwanted, not my clothes.
I'll be alright, they make pills for that...
re:Julz....................
Um, huh??? LOL I'm lost! Everything looks right on my end.
re: Very funny!
That's when you borrow the guy's shirt Karen! LOL
LOL! This discussion is hilarious!
I always wondered what those panties that rip so easily were made of. I guess they are just a couple of stings and a swatch. Mine would never rip that easy. Actually, I buy the Bali Scamp and those things pretty much last forever. Good luck if anyone ever tried that with me.
Margie :)
going home after the rip up
ROFL Karen. Especially if it's winter and they live where it's really cold!. Can you imagine? shivering under the shirt or jacket stolen from the guy, trying to hide the fact you have no shirt or bra left.
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I hear you margie! I do have some of the pretty little things but with my luck I'd be wearing my granny panties when this went down and it would not be a pleasant experence to have him trying to tear them off of me. LOL
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I agree! Not attractive,
I agree! Not attractive, not money-wise and not very likely! I don't buy clothes that just fall apart with one tug. Dude, you can't wait 20 seconds? Or he could be a rugged cowboy with a Buck knife in his pocket to cut the bra and panties off. Nope, does nothing for me... Let's see, put the shoe on the other foot. Grab a hold of his jockey shorts and try to rip them off. Not gonna happen. Not attractive either.
Ouch
I've had it happen. It hurts. Total mood killer.
Shelli
Grab a hold of his jockey shorts!
To funny! That would teach'em! LOL
Kathy D
What Books Have You All Been Reading?
Hi All:
Which books are you all reading? I’ve read over 700 romances and I don’t think there was more than one or two in which there was a ripping scene. Doing that today would be evidence of rape. Unless the woman is someone the man has had a relationship with for a long time, ripping clothes off would be quite risky.
This is, however, a popular fantasy. Some therapists have suggested that couples who want to try this have the woman buy used clothes for the purpose.
Also, I think the most likely situation where this might actually happen is when the woman is almost falling out of her blouse as it is – like where there is only one button left holding everything together. Now if the story is an 18th century pirate adventure and the heroine is tied to the mast of the ship, I think she has more problems than ripped clothes.
Thanks,
Vince
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I guess a better question is...
how have you managed to miss all the books with these type of scenes in them? Even in modern settings, this type of scene has appeared in a great deal of books; hence, the nickname of bodice ripper.
And yes, I agree, it would be quite risky in the real modern world to do such a thing but often books don't cater to the dictates of the real world. This is why those of us who find the ripping of clothes in a sex scene annoying as we would be pissed over the loss of our clothes and the whole moment would be totally ruined! I suppose this is somebody's idea of a good fantasy as you mentioned, Vince, but to go into all that planning sure sounds like it would ruin the whole idea of having a fantasy to me. But since it's not a fantasy of mine, maybe I'm just being too logical.
Regardless, this thread has been hysterical and I will probably erupt into uncontrolled giggles the next time I encounter one of these scenes in a book. Hope no one asks why....
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I'm gonna give romance a bad name...
...and go out on a limb here to say, I LOVE bodice rippers. Now, if I were really in the middle of a hot, steamy moment and dh ripped my shirt or any other article of clothing, I'd probably smack him then tell him to forget about, well, you know. BUT I often enjoy the scenes in the books I read. :-) Maybe it's because back in the olden days when I first started reading romance Johanna Lindsey, Julie Garwood, Catherine Coulter, Jude Devereaux, Judith McNaught and the rest of those authors ALWAYS had the bodice rip scene. I don't know.
Romance has come a long way, and I'm thankful for that. But bodice ripping doesn't bother me a bit. :-)
GREAT POST by the way! Lots to think about.
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I guess the question of bodice rippers just depends. As a married woman, it can be so easy to get caught up in everything else other than romance and quality time between work, domestic things, pets (and I don't even have children!) that sometimes I do have fantasies of just being able to forget all the responsibilities and practicalities of life....although I think throwing out everything on my to do list would be more sexy and liberating than having clothes ripped off! Considering how much I HATE to shop for clothes or anything other than books, in real life, I would not be that happy at the idea of having to shop afterwards. In books, I just think it is a genre convention and just skim over it or perhaps notice if it is well done and stands out.
I did just finish reading a great undressing scene by Carol Townend in An Honorable Rogue (Medieval historical) that has innocence, playfulnessness and sensuality all in one. In terms of reading, I guess I tend to gravitate more to that style in reading. Also that scene told me more about the characters, developed previously, but developed/fleshed out (no pun intended) in the undress scene. I guess I get bored with scenes that just seem out of context from the whole book?
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precious garments
I just read this, thought you all might enjoy it.
I quote:
"He finally grasped her skirt, the gesture brutal. Allie knew he was about to rip her clothes from her body. She seized the zipper and frantically pulled. He never stopped kissing her, but his mouth softened and she felt a smile.
'Yer precious garments,' he murmered.
'Very precious,' she gasped. Somehow she wriggled out of the skirt. He seized it and tossed it on the floor."
~ Dark Rival by Brenda Joyce, p. 163.
Of course, these are clothes from 2007 while she's in 1430... difficult to come by.
Jo
Ahhh, Silver. A girl after
Ahhh, Silver. A girl after my own heart. It's nice to see a heroine who doesn't enjoy having her clothes ripped off. LOL
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Too funny
I just found this and this was hysterical. Ripping clothing does nothing for me. I just think about the money to replace it. Ripping panties is just stupid. Easier to slip them off. Wasted money that could've been spent buying books. What are they thinking? I think it is much sexier when the author talks about slowly one button and an inch at a time savoring each new glimpse.
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I'm with you, give me slow
I'm with you, give me slow and easy for seduction instead of ripping and tearing. Well i suppose that is all well and good in some circumstances, but I prefer lots of foreplay leading up to doin' the deed.
And YES! Save my money and let me buy more books!
wow Deb where have you been hiding that you just found this one? LOL Kidding!
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Just found this thread/blog
I was searching the boards and just found this thread and the topic and comments are hysterical. Thanks for the laugh, everyone. I have to admit as well that I have loved the old bodice-rippers set in the past (Johanna Lindsey)
But I like the scenes in a book. The man that ever rips my clothes will get a bill to replace them.
Hey, a girl can dream, can't she?
You know, this is the same as me loving the arrogant heros of old as well. Works on the page and in the context of the story with that heroine, but in my reality where I'm the heroine, I wouldn't want to deal with an Alpha male 24/7
Shaz
Glad to see folks are still
Glad to see folks are still finding this little thread of mine. I've been getting such a laugh out of all the comments! I hear you on the what works in books not working in reality thing. granted, I'm very particular about alpha males in books too but I do like them sometimes. What's key is how well the author portrays them. Sometimes they come across as a total ass, other times they come across as a wonderful guy who will do anything to protect his woman. In real life though I'd never get along with an alpha male in a relatinship. I'm too fiercely independent for that.
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Good point...
That is a good point that sometimes what we enjoy in a book is not anything we'd ever enjoy in real life.
And this whole thread has been HILARIOUS!
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It's the fantasy thing
For me it comes down to fantasy. I immerse myself in a good book (bodice-rippers included) and I can think "oh, he wants her so bad, he can't restrain himself, he's actually ripping her clothes off! How romantic" and I can be totally ok with that in the context of the story. I just know those things don't really happen in real life - unless a woman is being attacked or if a couple is acting out a fantasy. IMHO
Shaz
Isn’t “bodice-rippers” a pejorative term?
When I was in college in the late1960’s & early 1970's, and the feminists were at their most outspoken stage (the bra-burning stage) “bodice rippers” was the ultimate term used to putdown romances. These feminists called all romances “bodice rippers”, they said romances were bad for women, that they pitted woman against woman, that they taught women to be subservient, that the key to happiness was a good man and a family. Comments like these, from fellow philosophy students who I knew were intelligent, kept me from reading any romances for decades. It wasn’t until I read a few Linda Howard novels that I began to learn that those 1960 feminists probably never read any romances.
Is it really OK to use the term “bodice rippers” today among romance fans?
BTW, I’ve read mostly contemporary series romances – very few historical romances. Also, I always thought that the bodice got ripped in the action going on, like trying to escape, and not ripped by the hero in passion.
Anyway, I still can’t bring myself to say “bodice ripper” out loud. But I do love this thread!
Thanks,
Vince
“Romances are the emotional vitamins of the soul.” Vince
Speaking of the Devil – Guess What?
Wouldn’t you know it? The book I am currently reading, “At Your Command”, by Julie Miller, Blaze, has a “blouse ripper” with buttons flying! (P53) In this case it is 100% totally appropriate! If you like Blaze action, you should love this book! Enough said.
Thanks,
Vince
“Romances are the emotional vitamins of the soul.” Vince
I have to say that I don't
I have to say that I don't really mind reading these kind of scenes. I do get lost in the books. But in real life, I don't think it would really happen too much.
Margie :)
Elastic...
I'm reading ROGUE by Rachel Vincent and had to stop laughing long enough to post this. There is a tiny scene where underwear is ripped and yes, the author mentions the material cutting into her skin and the elastic popping.
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