For various reasons we have both my family and my husband’s family that are in Minnesota to our house every year for Thanksgiving, so in two days I’m going to have a houseful of people here expecting all the traditional favorites. I don’t know about you, but I can’t count how many years I’ve made turkey and dressing over the years. And I can’t tell you how many years I’ve been disappointed with the results.
I said to my husband the other morning, “Just once I’d like to make dressing that’s light and fluffy.”
To which he replied, “That doesn’t sound like dressing.”
So I said, “That’s because you’re used to my dressing. Trust me. Dressing is not supposed to be the texture of cement.”
Okay, so I wasn’t quite so snappy with the comeback (writing gives you lots of time to think through dialogue) but my dressing does invariably, I kid you not, turn out either mushy or like cement. What am I doing wrong?
Then there's the turkey.
The only turkey I’ve ever truly loved was the one my husband deep-fried last year when we had 23 people here, needed an extra turkey, and didn’t have the oven space. He said it was such a hassle, I’m positive I won’t be able to convince him to do it ever again.
I've tried injecting and brining and still my turkeys are usually dry and tasteless. Cement and cardboard. What fun. There was one year I threw some oranges into the cavity of the turkey, hoping they might help keep it moist. Well, the meat was still dry, but the orange flavor made the best gravy I’ve ever had.
All is not lost, though. There are a couple of things I do well. Mashed potatoes and gravy. Pumpkin pie, thanks to my MIL's recipe. Got those down.
But does anyone out there have the key to making a moist, flavorful turkey? What about dressing recipes? And what am I missing? Other than the basics I've mentioned above, what’s your favorite Thanksgiving food?
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone, and safe travels!
Helen
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I'm a big fan of the Food
I'm a big fan of the Food Network. Try covering the top of the bird with cheesecloth if you can find it. They say it keeps the bird really moist and it was the prettiest color when they uncovered it. Good luck with your dinner.
You should use oven bags to
You should use oven bags to cook your turkey in. Make sure you buy the right size. Turkey size. They keep the meat moist because they seal with a twistie. But they allow the turkey to brown.
I used make my stuffing with cubes of cut regular bread. To that I add: oinions, mushrooms, celeri, garlic, parsley, apples, cooked chestnuts; all chopped fine. Then I added cooked sausage meat with the juice/grease. Then my secret is to add 1 (or 2) sticks of melted butter depending on the quantity of stuffing that I have. Then I stuff the turkey, but I always have a lot left over, which I put into a large baking dish to heat for 45 minutes. Lots of people have raved about my stuffing, so I know it's good.
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Cheesecloth?
Really, Moonwitch? That's interesting. Never heard that trick. I'm guessing they have that at a kitchen specialty store, right?
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Hey Fake Frenchie!
I've always wondered about those bags. Does the gravy still turn out as good?
As for the dressing hints, I've tried all but the 2 sticks of butter. LOL Sounds good to me! I think I may be cooking mine for too long, as well. Will have to try just the 45 mins.
Thanks guys.
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non tradional dinner
we didn't have the tradional Thankgiving dinner. Sure we had the turkey but it was small. We don't have stuffing, my stepmother usually has some baked apples that she had inside the bird. Along with the mixed vegetables we have red cabbage. the potatoes are usually boiled not mashed. The reason for the small turkey because the big meat dish is roladen. It's thin sliced beef rolled with a pickle, bacon, mustard, salt, pepper inside then held in a tight roll with a toothpick, lightly fried to add colour but then put in baking dish, covered in gravy and cooked in oven for an hour so it's cooked through. My stepmother usually has some of these ready in freezer so she just has to pop in oven to reheat
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I've always wondered about
I've always wondered about those bags. Does the gravy still turn out as good?
The cooking juices and fat from the bird is collected in the bag. You would have to separate the juices from the fat, but I usually have tons of juices
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You had me googling, Christa. Never heard of that dish. Apparently, it's German. And I'm (mostly) German! LOL Sounds very interesting - flavorful. Would love to try it. I admit, I gotta have mashed potatoes, though. My daughter would never let me hear the end of it if I didn't make them!
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Cooking Bag
I have to separate the fat from the juices anyway, Frenchie, the way I make the turkey, so that wouldn't make a difference. I'll bet the clean up is easier, too!
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turkey fixin's
Hi, Helen
! Unlike you, I've rarely made Thanksgiving dinner. However, I'm preparing one this year and looking forward to it.
Since oven space is at a premium, I'm going to try heating the dressings (a traditional sage & oyster dressing and one with cream biscuits and pancetta) in a couple of crockpots. I've been told crockpots work well, keeping the dressing moist.
As for the turkey--cooking meat has caused a lot of conflict in my house
. I'm slowly convincing my husband that removing poultry (and most meats) from the heat source while it's still a bit pink (but not rubbery) and a few degrees short of "done" is one way to keep it from overcooking and drying out.
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone
!
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German too
we just had schnizel Saturday
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Thanksgiving food...
Sorry Helen, I can't help you with the dressing ;-)
I don't do Thanksgiving of course (french girl here) but I do Thanlsgiving food though : pumpkin pie, pumpkin rolls, turkey and gravy, pecan pie...hmmm (my mouth is watering so i'm stopping here).
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Thanks Terry!
A crock pot for the dressing! What an awesome idea. You'd think I was such a newbie at this, but I just always use a neighbor's oven. Silly, huh? Running back and forth across the street! I'm going to give that a shot this year.
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Schnizel ...
Schnizel, schnizel, schnizel. I don't know why, but I love saying that word! Both my parents are half German, but my mom never cooked German meals. Hmm. Wonder why.
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turkey and stuffing
I brush the outside of the bird with butter, sage and pepper. Last year I basted it with Apple juice a couple of times. Also, are you keeping it well covered until the last 30 minutes or so?
I cook most of my dresssing/stuffing inside the bird. I wonder if that helps keep it moist? The last few years I've used a stuffing bag, which is basically a cheesecloth bag, that lets you pull the stuffing out of the bird, without having to spoon it out.
My stuffing recipe is:
Allow ¾ cup stuffing for each pound turkey
¾ cup chopped (finely) onion
1 ½ cups chopped celery (with leaves)
1 cup margarine or butter
9 cups soft bread cubes (about 1 loaf)
2 tsp salt
1 ½ tsp dried sage
1 tsp dried thyme leaves
½ tsp pepper
Cook and stir onion and celery in margarine until onions are
tender. Stir in remaining ingredients; toss.
Makes 9 cups stuffing
Good luck!
And really - it looked fine when I previewed it the first time!! I have all my family favorite recipes in word, and copied and pasted into here. Guess I can't do that!
Lynne
Hey Lynne. I want to get
Hey Lynne.
I want to get in there an edit your comment for all the html mess, but I can't. Looks like a good stuffing recipe, though.
No, I don't think I alway keep the bird covered until the last 30 minutes. I'm not a very organized cook, so I do what I do and can't remember from one year to the next. LOL.
I need to get serious this year, though, because I am sick of the dry turkey. I'm thinking I need to report back after Thursday, eh?
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German cooking
My dad is from Germany and my stepmothers parents are from Germany so there was a lot of German cooking going on around the house. Plus I worked in the kitchen of a German retirement home for 10 years, the last 3-5 mostly cooking
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Helen...
My other thought is - what temperature are you cooking it at? Years ago I found a poultry cook book and it recommends cooking for 25 minutes per pound at 325 F, and add 30 minutes if you stuffed it.
I find that if I follow that, it never fails.
Lynne
moist bird - fluffy stuffing
My stuffing recipie is like Lynn's plus: 1 lb italian sausage and a box of sliced mushrooms. I think the mushrooms, celery and sausae help keep the bread from getting too heavy and it's really light and crumbly when I stuff it
into the turkey and under the skin. Maybe you're packing your stuffing in too tight?
What we've always done is rub butter on the outside of the turkey skin then separate the skin from around the breast and slide about an inch of stuffing between the skin and meat. The white meat stays moist and has a little more flavor because of the seasonings in the stuffing. The stuffing under the skin, over the turkey breasts isn't really edible as it gets brown and crispy but it keeps the white meat moist.
I've never used cooking bags, always foil with the shiny side in. :)
Added! Cooking time is like Lynn's too. Plus I don't put all the stuffing inside the bird. There's usually a 3 qt. covered cassarole of the rest of the stuffing that I just bake for the last hour with the bird. Granted, my bird is only about 14 lbs. and the oven is good size. Good luck!
Turkey & dressing
I don't cook the turkey, my sister does, but she always uses a cooking bag and her turkey is always moist. After years of chopping and cutting and mixing and baking about 4 years ago we switched to Stove Top Stuffing. And you know what, nobody cared. So it's a lot faster and a lot less trouble.
Linda Henderson
That explains it, Christa!
That explains it, Christa!
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Hi Lynne!
I'm writing all these hints down! Will let you guys know how it turns out! Maybe I'll try for some visual aids as well. LOL
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Thanks, Terri! This is
Thanks, Terri! This is the second time someone has mentioned mushrooms in the dressing. Hmmm.
I made a mushroom dressing reonce for Christmas to go with a pork loin roast and it was tasty, and fluffy now that I think about it, but it was soooo much work chopping all those shrooms I swore I was never going to do it again. I'm going to add some to my recipe this year and see what happens.
Italian sausage! That sounds nummy!
What I've done in the past is cover the bird with butter and cover with tin foil, shiny side in. I always end up with a beautifully browned turkey. I think I might be cooking it for too long.
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Cooking Bags
Helen, I'm another fan of the cooking bags, though I wonder about toxicity these days. The bags do result in a nice, moist turkey, with lots of juices. I dry the inside cavity well after rinsing -- that helps keep the stuffing from getting too mushy. I also rub salt inside the bird....
Hope you have a fab Thanksgiving!
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Hey Carrie!
Happy Thanksgiving to you, too!
Man, don't get me going on the toxicity of plastic. I've been trying to be so diligent about that these days. Hard to believe a one day deal would have much impact, but add up a lot of one days and ...
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