Building a Mystery: Writing For Intrigue (2)

There's more than suspense. More than Romance. Intrigue must weave all the pieces of a mystery, a romance and the craft of writing. Are you up to the task?

I love the intrigue/suspense lines...

I was introduced to Harlequin through the Intrigue line. I saw a woman in the market pick up three without even reading the back cover and I though, those books must be good. So I picked out one and was sold. I've since branched out to try different lines, but I still love an intrigue/suspense. I think part of the satisfaction is the fast pace, the danger, and how the H/h are forced under pressure to realize how much they mean to each other.

But writing intrigue/suspense is another story (pun intended). I've written several novels (haven't submitted yet) and some have intrigue in the external conflict, but I haven't been able to write the genre. I really admire how the authors do it.

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

ChrissySue, I'm so glad to

ChrissySue, I'm so glad to hear that you enjoy Intrigues. I hope you keep on enjoying them. Laughing I think the line is doing really well right now, thank goodness!

 Wow, it's been quiet here lately. I hope this means everyone is having a lot of fun. Wink

I've been busy, busy, busy writing a new Intrigue miniseries that will be out next year. I'm so excited about these books, and so far, the writing has been going very well. Fingers crossed that it continues.

 Delores

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Delores This is the

Delores

This is the writing thread.  The discussion thread has been moved here.

http://community.eharlequin.com/forums/simply-series/cluing-romance-intrigue

wj

Is this the writing thread?

Since there's no postings on here, I'm writing to see if I'm in the right place. I figure if I'm not you'll let me know, Wayne.  Laughing

I've asked a couple of times and this is where I get referred (I think) but there are never any comments.

::help::

Mallory

Mallory Kane
if you're looking for a hero...

Black Hills Brotherhood Trilogy, Sep, Oct, Nov 2009
Watch for a new Silver Star of Texas Trilogy, 2010
mallorykane.com

Mallory Yes, this is

Mallory

Yes, this is the writing thread to discuss anything about writing for Intrigue.

wj

Too Hot to Talk Writing?

I guess this summer is either too busy or too hot for many folks to be talking about writing. But I'd like to see our Intrigue writing thread come back, because--call me prejudiced--but I think writing Harlequin Intrigues is fun, challenging and very rewarding.

To me, the most fun part of writing an Intrigue is intertwining the love story and the suspense/mystery story. The more inseparable the two are, the better the book. If you want to write for Intrigue, that's what you have to master.

There are those who say that Intrigues are the hardest Harlequins to write. I don't know about that. I don't do well writing chick-lit type books or home-and-family stories. Apparently, I'm better at guns and blood and heroes and heroines in life-or-death situations.   Cool

I think it would be fun to see some questions here about writing for Intrigue.

Anyone? Buehler?  Wink

Mallory

Mallory Kane
if you're looking for a hero...

Black Hills Brotherhood Trilogy, Sep, Oct, Nov 2009
Watch for a new Silver Star of Texas Trilogy, 2010
mallorykane.com

Writing Intrigues Discussion

I think that's a great idea for a discussion, Mallory, because... you guys all know that there's an Intrigue Pitch Contest coming up in October, right? Cool

The weeks leading upto that would be a great time to pick our brains and finetune that Intrigue story and pitch idea before you submit it to the editor.

Just saying... Wink

Besides, Intrigue authors love talking about writing Intrigue books.

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

OMG!!!

Seriously?  There's a pitch in October?  I am so excited, I've been waiting for this forever it seems!  Wow, better get off of here and polish up my MS!

Thanks for the heads up!

K

I'm going to try blogging. No promises.
www.themuseandthemonkey.blogspot.com

Works In Progress
FM (Intrigue) 47,351/60,000
WS (American) 1,750/60,000

Talking about Writing and Inspiration

Right Julie. Intrigue authors do love talking about writing Intrigues. I'm blogging today on the eHarlequin Intrigue Authors Blog about what inspires me. And what inspires me is body parts.  Cool  Nice body parts, like forearms and wrists and bare feet and hands ... Mmmm!

Check out the blog and see what makes me want to write. Yep. I've put up a few pictures over there. 

Here's the url.
http://community.eharlequin.com/content/harlequin-intrigue-group-author-...

Enjoy!

Mallory

Mallory Kane
if you're looking for a hero...

Black Hills Brotherhood Trilogy, Sep, Oct, Nov 2009
Watch for a new Silver Star of Texas Trilogy, 2010
mallorykane.com

Question...

Do you plot the Intrigue first then work the romance in, or visa versa? Or write them together?

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

I definitely write them

I definitely write them together, though I may go back as I'm editing to intensify either the romance and/or the suspense.Cool

That's one of the key elements that makes an Intrigue and Intrigue, I think--that the romance/relationship and suspense/mystery/action/danger are interconnected with each other.  The easiest analogy I've been able to come up with is to say your left hand is the romance and your right hand is the suspense--now put your hands together, lace your fingers together, and that's what an Intrigue should be like.

Another way I think of it is if you can take out the suspense elements and still have a complete romance story, then it's not an Intrigue.  And vice versa, if you can take out the romance and have a complete suspense plot, then it's not an Intrigue. So, it makes sense to me to plot the two elements of the storyline together.

When I'm plotting, I think, too, of how the two main characters must have a personal stake in the suspense part of the story--a woman searching for her child/honoring a parent's wish/concerned for a friend or sibling's safety/having an unwanted (aka stalker) suitor/etc., a man protecting his family/town/woman/child, etc. , and so on.  That suspense conflict must be personalized, so that it helps drive both the suspense AND the romance.

For example.. the heroine has a beloved boss who is a mentor to her--when he begins acting strangely and drops hints to her that something is terribly wrong at the company where they work, and then he turns up murdered--she gets involved in trying to figure out why he was killed because SHE was the one he tried to confide in,so she feels responsible for not picking up all the signs that he needed help sooner.  And when her boss is being made out to be the bad guy, then she gets even more invovled (putting her in the sights of some very dangerous, desperate people) out of a strong sense of loyalty to prove his innocence.  When said mysterious bad guys attack her, looking for evidence her late boss left her, she turns to her next door neighbor--a big bruiser of a man who just happens to be a cop.  When murders he's investigating seem to link to the murder of her boss, he becomes involved professionally, and now they're working together because she may have info he needs to crack the case.  But the danger around her is mounting, so he needs to not just do the good neighbor thing, but step up to protect his witness.  The romance and suspense continue to be interconnected and grow as all that time together investigating and serving as her self-appointed bodyguard lead to tense and tender moments that expose their feelings for each other.  Innocent That's a quick rundown (and a teaser of my December Intrigue, BEAUTY AND THE BADGE Wink) of how I plot an Intrigue.

Does that make sense?

I'm sure Mallory and others will have some answers for you, too.

 

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Thanks Julie...

That's a good glimpse of the inner workings of intrigue/suspense writing. The sneak peak of your Dec book is very 'intriguing'! Love the big cop next door thing. 

My next question is: How do you go about doing your research? 

(As I said in the first post, I really enjoy intrigue. But when I tried to write it my villains came out more buffoons than hardened bad guys. My reader loved them, so maybe that's the direction for me. Even though I now target HSR, my stories still have a bit of intrigue. So I'm interested in how it's done.)

Again, thanks for taking the time to answer our questions. 

 

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

Which came first?

Hi ChrissieSue,

The subject indicates the 'age-old' Intrigue question. Which came first, the mystery/suspense or the romance. I agree with Julie 100%. For me they are hopelessly intertwined. Even when I try to write straight romance, a mystery or a suspense plot always shows up. I used to drive my critique group crazy! 

If there is a 'secret' to writing for Intrigue it's that you can't just have a mystery with some love story thrown in, or a romance with a little mystery added. For Intrigues, neither part can exist without the other. The mystery is the reason the hero and heroine are together. And the relationship between the hero and heroine is the reason for the mystery.

Pardon me for using my books as examples, but I know them best.  Laughing

In my Black Hills Brotherhood  trilogy, starting in September, three young boys' lives were forever changed when they were saved from certain death on a mountainside in a storm by a hero who died saving them. They grew up vowing to pay back that heroism by rescuing the innocent. Now they're in a battle to save the free world from an internationally infamous terrorist.

In His Best Friend's Baby, (Sep 09) the child of Matt's best friend's widow has been kidnapped--in order to lure Matt into a trap.With literally the fate of the free world at stake, he must save Aimee and her baby before time runs out.

In The Sharpshooter's Secret Son, (Oct 09) the terrorist failed to capture Matt, so he abducts Deke's ex-wife, hoping to use her to trap Deke. When Deke finds out Mindy is pregnant with his child, the urgency doubles. He's got to save her while eluding the terrorists who want to kill him.

In the final book, The Colonel's Widow?, (Nov 09) Irina Castle's husband was assassinated two years ago by, it was assumed, the most infamous terrorist on the planet. But now the terrorist is targeting the people closest to Irina. Then Irina becomes the target, and is hidden away by a mysterious man who turns out to be her dead husband. Irina and Rook must battle their own conflicted feelings as they battle the terrorist who is bent on destroying the free world.

I don't know if  those blurbs make the point, but the idea is that the hero and heroine are in the situation because of their relationship. And without the situation, they may have never fallen in love (or back in love as the case may be.)

I can't tell you exactly how to mix the mystery and the romance successfully, but I can tell you that it's loads of fun, and very satisfying when it all comes together!

Good luck, and please. Ask any other questions. Intrigue authors love talking about writing Intrigues!

Mallory

Mallory Kane
if you're looking for a hero...

Black Hills Brotherhood Trilogy, Sep, Oct, Nov 2009
Watch for a new Silver Star of Texas Trilogy, 2010
mallorykane.com

Loglines?

Has anybody ever posted the winning loglines from any of these pitches?  I participated in the SRS pitch ages ago and had the completely wrong idea!  LOL-- I sent in a full blurb!  I really want to get it right this time and I was hoping for an idea of what works.

Thanks,

K

I'm going to try blogging. No promises.
www.themuseandthemonkey.blogspot.com

Works In Progress
FM (Intrigue) 47,351/60,000
WS (American) 1,750/60,000

Mallory Your upcoming

Mallory

Your upcoming series looks soooo good! I can't wait.

wj

Pitch Contest Question

K--I don't know if I've ever seen the winning LogLines posted anywhere, but that's a good question.

But if I understand correctly, what they're looking for originally if a one sentence, "high-concept" blurb about her manuscript.  Then, a short synopsis.

By high-concept, I mean something like you might see at the top of a H/S back cover blurb, like...

"A life or death Beauty & the Beast tale..." (that fits my December Intrigue, BEAUTY AND THE BADGE)

or using popular references like...

"Agatha Christie's AND THEN THERE WERE NONE meets the movie CLIFFHANGER..." (that's how I sold my novella, "A Midsummer Night's Murder" to Signature Select for their CORNERED anthology)

 

Of course, there will be more details closer to the October pitch contest.  The editor may say she wants a one or two-page synopsis, or something else.

 

Does this mean you have a story idea for the Intrigue pitch?

 

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Research? Sort of...

ChrissieSue--different authors will respond to your question differently, as we all have unique styles of working.

For me, I don't usually go out and say, "I want to write a book about Kansas City cops," and then get online or whatever to specifically research a book.

I tend to work in the opposite direction.  I'm a lifelong learner--love to attend workshops, meet with experts in different fields, read non-fiction books and articles, travel, etc.   As I'm absorbing new information from my life experiences and educational growth, new story ideas get triggered in my imagination.  So, I guess you could say it's the research that gives me story ideas and background, rather than vice versa.

One reason I write so much about Kansas City is because I used to live there, and I still have family in the area, so I visit often.  I've picked up a lot of firsthand knowledge about the city, its people and its history that way.

If a particular question comes up as I'm writing (like the caliber of bullet a certain gun would use, or is it plausible to have a flooded river in a certain area of the country, etc.), I have reference books on hand to look up details (Writer's Digest HOWDUNIT series are my favorites--very user friendly, written by experts, but in layman's terms), or I'll go online to favorite sites (Ask.com is a good place to start) or just Google it.

My two favorite types of research are to a) visit the specific place I want to write about and absorb the history, folklore, famous details, culture, people--then take pix, write notes, or file info away in my brain to pull out later (a previous trip through the 4 Corners area of the US, and reviewing some pix/info from the trip helped me plot my June Intrigue, PULLING THE TRIGGER--re-reading the Legend of Ute Mountain especially gave me some story ideas), or b) make friends and contacts with a variety of experts.  In my other life as a teacher, for example, I work with a program called IMPROV, where we host camps for at-risk teens, and use a variety of theater and communication techniques to help them learn about and deal with or cope with issues important to them.  It's an organization that involves people from several walks of life--teachers, counselors, business people, prison social workers, cops, state police, DEA agents, trauma nurses, nutritionists, etc.  Many of those people have become good friends, and they all enjoy talking about their work and answering my questions when I have them.

Plus, there are people just in regular life who are great information sources.  You may be surprised what interesting things you can learn, just by listening to folks.  Smile

 

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Thanks Mallory and Julie...

For sharing how you work. Looks like some good reading coming up this fall! 

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

Pitch Contest

I read an announcement on the home page from Rae that the Intrigue Pitch Contest has been moved to November so that SRS can do a pitch contest in October.  I asked the ptb to confirm the dates for us as I know some folks here are planning on pitching their stories.

We'll keep you posted.

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

November Intrigue Pitch

Okay, gang--here's the official word from Rae re the Intrigue Pitch... it has been moved back a month to November.

Due to circumstances beyond Miss Zaza's control, the Intrigue pitch was
moved to November. You can also share that it's going to be a one-page
synopsis limited to 250 words. Miss Zaza would also like 12pt Arial. So
that should help them out some more. :) 

We'll keep everyone posted as we learn more.  Plus, closer to pitch time, the Intrigue authors will be blogging about writing for Intrigue.   And, as always, if you have writing questions related to Intrigue, you can post them here.

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Yay! On the move to

Yay! On the move to November. I just started my Intrigue and that gives me plenty of time.

Becca Sheridan-Furrow
*Website**Blog*

Wayne...

Is this the place where I can ask for some brain-storming help with a small plotting problem? My MS is targeted to HSR but the external conflict is an intrigue.

tx 

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

Of course you can ask!

Maybe I shouldn't speak for Wayne, but I feel sure you can ask your 'intriguey' question here. Intrigue folks always love to talk about Intrigue (R) and intrigue.  Cool

So ask away, and maybe someone will have just the answer you need.

Mallory

Mallory Kane
if you're looking for a hero...

Black Hills Brotherhood Trilogy, Sep, Oct, Nov 2009
Watch for a new Silver Star of Texas Trilogy, 2010
mallorykane.com

Thanks Mallory...

I'll try to keep it short.

Ten years before the story starts the hero (in special forces) pulles an injured soldier to safety. Now the soldier (the villain) has gone a little insane having spent the last ten years as a quadriplegic because of his injuries. He blames the hero for saving him instead of leaving him to die. The villain figures he would have been a hero in his sons' eyes if he had died in battle instead of becoming a shell of a man unable to do anything but move his motorized wheelchair with two fingers. He wants to die and he wants the hero to kill him. In one version I had the heroine used as bait, in another version I used the hero's seven-year-old son as bait and the heroine covers the hero's back. To rescue the heroine (or the son) the hero has to kill the villain. (But being the hero he rescues the loved one without harming the villain.)

What's so hard is how the villain has set this up. I tried 'wired with explosives' but it just didn't come out plausible. I think plausible is my problem. Undecided  and I don't want to traumatize the kid. I'd appreciate any ideas I can spin off from. 

Again, thanks.  

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

I'll jump in with a few

I'll jump in with a few thoughts on your plot.

The big thing I
see is how is your quadriplegic villain going to kidnap anyone or rig
himself with explosives, etc.?  It's certainly an intriguing motive for
a bad guy--punishing the man he blames by forcing him to commit murder, torturing him by going after his son, but he's going to need to have a
henchman/buddy/associate/gun for hire who helps him commit these
crimes.  Otherwise, it won't be plausible, imo.  And, that henchman would have to have a compelling reason to do the dirty work for him.

Another question I have is how does the heroine come into this?  Is she the hero's estranged wife?  The villain's nurse?  For a romantic suspense, she'd need to be integral to the plot.  Her developing relationship with the hero/or redeveloping relationship is where the "romantic" part of RS comes in--that relationship would be what motivates the hero to rescue her from the villain when he puts her in danger.  They can't start as a happy couple unless you're writing a straight suspense story.  Does that make sense?  The developing relationship is as important as the suspense elements--otherwise, it sounds like it's the villain's story--his journey from hero to invalid to villain--and that could be an interesting story, but not a romance.

Plausibility is all about creating believable motivation.  I would think you'd need to have a really compelling motivation for the hero to risk murdering a helpless man--otherwise, he won't seem terribly heroic.

I can see something like the disabled villain pretending to be hurt worse than he is, laying a guilt trip on the heroine (his divorced wife) to stay with him.  Even if he's paraplegic, he could get around well enough to drive vehicles, build bombs, kidnap someone at gunpoint, etc.  Maybe the heroine had divorced him prior to the war because he was a jerk, abusive, philandering, etc.   The hero may have even rescued her once or twice, and their friendship is deepening into real love, but when the villain sees he's losing what's his to the man he blames for his injuries/survival/shame/etc., then he wants to take and destroy what he cares about.  Of course, that changes your setup.

Just some thoughts.  Maybe working on a clear motivation for the H/h/v will help you get the answers you're looking for to make your story elements more plausible.

Good luck with the story. Smile

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Wow Julie...

Some great ideas there. Your premise of the heroine being the ex wife of the villain is so cool! Wish I'd thought of that at page one! But it gives me some ideas into the thinking process of the villain. 

I know it's hard to figure out ideas with so little information on the rest of the plot. So, here's a little more. The scene is actually at the end of the story. The villain has three 'henchmen', two hired less-than-highly-intelligent men who have been doing all the 'work', and the villain's son, an Andre-the-giant-type who is actually there to prevent the hero from killing his father, while at the same time letting his father expunge his grievances. (I'm still learning plot and plausibility, and everything else. Phew, so much to learn.) 

The hero and heroine meet when she gets a call that her father is in trouble and she comes to look for him. When she gets there the lab where her father works has been destroyed and her father is among the missing. The lab belongs to the hero and the father is his employee as well as his best friend. Without taking up too much space, the hero hates reporters  (His wife was a beautiful actress and their son was born disfigured and she couldn't handle it and an abandoned her son and the hero, and the media soaked the tabloids with it). The heroine is a reporter.

They have to work together to find her father. She has to learn that the story isn't everything, sometimes a person's privacy and dignity are more important. He has to learn that just because someone is of a certain profession or type doesn't mean she's going to exploit him.

The villian has gone to all this trouble - kidnapping her father (who turns up not knowing what's been happening because he's been out fishing and the kidnappers actually nabbed his assistant by mistake), asking for the father's formula for ransom, then when that failed, kidnaping the hero's son - to get the hero to come out of seclusion. And to make the hero mad enough to kill him. But the hero knows he can rescue his son without killing the villain because of his special services experiences in impossible rescue missions.

The hero, now a wealthy entrepreneur, has kept to himself, (raising his son) because of the media debacle when his son was born (his ex wife is still tabloid fodder). [BTW, I work for a newspaper so this is not a personal opinion against the media ;-) ]

Thanks for taking the time to help me puzzle this out. You've given me some good points to consider. 

 

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

LadiesI keep forgetting

Ladies

I keep forgetting this thread is here. Since it's an active thread, I will, with your permission, move it into the main area with the other active threads. Unless, the majority prefers it to be here.

wj

Please do, Wayne.  I had

Please do, Wayne.  I had trouble finding it until my brain kicked in and I remembered to bookmark it as a Favourite.

Thanks!

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Thanks for moving the thread

Thanks for moving the thread where I can find it!

My Intrigue is coming along, I got a really good idea in the middle of the night about a character and had to run into the living room and write it down so I wouldn't forget! One of mt teen age daughters was still up playing a computer game and she gave me that crazy mom look. Haha.

Becca Sheridan-Furrow
*Website**Blog*

Many many moons ago...

A long time ago, I came across a 'how-to' on writing a one page synopsis.  As I remember it was very informative and broke the synopsis down into chunks (for example it said things like 'write one sentence describing your setting' and 'write one paragraph describing your heroine').  I believe it was on eHarlequin (could be wrong), but no amount of googling has returned it to me.  Does anyone else know where to find this, something similar, or something geared toward talking a first-timer through the one page synopsis?

Thanks,

K

I'm going to try blogging. No promises.
www.themuseandthemonkey.blogspot.com

Works In Progress
FM (Intrigue) 47,351/60,000
WS (American) 1,750/60,000

K The sample synposis and

K

The sample synposis and manuscript pages are HERE.

wj 

 

Hi K...

I'm writing my first synopsis. The sample one here is good and I keep a print out on my desk to refer to. It is after all what the H/S editors are looking for.  

But I found I also needed other examples to get my brain around the concept. Since the sample is a romantic comedy and my MS is more a romantic intrigue, I needed more research. So I've taken ideas from several authors who have tips on their web sites. Some of those are Anne Gracie, Bronwyn Jameson, Daphne Clair, Kathy Charmichael, and Lisa Gardner. Check out your favorite authors' web sites, a lot of them have pages for writers with anything from tips to lectures. They are a gold mine of information and very generous with their knowledge. 

Laughing 

p.s. there's a good discussion on Submisson Care Group 11 Submission Care Group 11 | eHarlequin.com Community Go to about 3/4 of the way down page 4.

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

Sorry Julie...

I can't read apparently.  Or maybe I'm just blind.

I missed your asking if I had an Intrigue to pitch.  I do.  It isn't finished (2 1/2 chapters to go plus a good old polish), but hopefully I can get it done in time.  I've been at this particular MS for ages now, but unfortunately life doesn't give me much free time.  I work a full-time job which requires me to do alot of independent study, coach all star cheerleading and 2 nights a week, and have a 2 year old.  Lately, I've been too worn out to write.  Some nights I think I'm just tired-stupid. 

Anyways, I do have a plan.  I want to finish the chapters by the end of this month and use Sept and Oct to polish.  I had my first chapter critiqued by a Super author who I became online friends with and she said it was better than most newbies, so who knows.  I'm sure it's gonna take a whole lot of polish though.  And now I have to work out this whole synopsis thing.  I had a blurb prepared just in case, but I think it may be a little longer than your typical logline.  Any advice (or if you would be interested in reading a bitSmile) is always appreciated.

Where is everyone getting the info about this pitch from?  I've been searching the forums, but I can't find anything.

K

I'm going to try blogging. No promises.
www.themuseandthemonkey.blogspot.com

Works In Progress
FM (Intrigue) 47,351/60,000
WS (American) 1,750/60,000

chrissiesue

I agree with everything Julie said.

My thoughts about your villain-- it's weird, I had a villain similar to this in an Intrigue I never sold. I still want to go back and revisit that book some day, but that doesn't generally prove to be a good idea. So instead, I'll share with you how my villain was able to carry out his plans. He got his daughter to do it. It sounds to me like your villain's son could do the dirty work, because he has heard from his father all his life that his dad's disability is the hero's fault.

The heroine as a reporter doesn't seem to mesh as tightly as Intrigue usually likes. The hero and heroine have to both be intimately involved with the mystery -- not just one of them. So I love Julie's idea of the heroine being the ex-wife of the villain -- or of the villain's son.  

What might even be better is if the heroine was the hero's ex-wife and the villain was going after HER to get revenge on the hero. That would be even tighter. The heroine could have left the hero for a completely different reason than the hero believes she left and part of their journey would be as he protects her life he finds out why she really left him (and of course it has to be a good reason, a superb reason if she also left their child behind.)

I know that's a lot of changes to ponder, but for Intrigue, as Julie said, the romance has to be integral to the plot. That's probably the hardest thing to pull of when writing for Intrigue, but it sure makes for a great story when you can pull it off.

Julie is one of the masters at that! So definitely listen to her.

Good luck!

Mallory

Mallory Kane
if you're looking for a hero...

Black Hills Brotherhood Trilogy, Sep, Oct, Nov 2009
Watch for a new Silver Star of Texas Trilogy, 2010
mallorykane.com

Hi Mallory...

Thanks for all the great ideas. And for sharing the bit about your 'unsold' MS's villain. I'm ready to shake things up and make some major changes. This gives me a lot of options to try. 

Regarding your unsold MS. I've often wondered if published authors ever go back to their early 'learning/unsold' MSs and rework them for submission? Or perhaps there are too many new ideas waiting to be written?  

 

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

Summer Book GiveAway Contest

BTW, if you can't get enough Intrigues to read this month... please
check out my website at www.juliemiller.org .  To help celebrate Intrigue's 25th birthday, I'm hosting my Summer
Book GiveAway Contest, where I'm giving away 5 of my Intrigue "firsts"
to lucky readers.  Just go to the website and follow the directions
there to enter. Cool

 

Happy Reading,

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Julie - What exciting

Julie - What exciting news.  25 years, huh.  I think Intrigue is as refreshing now as it was when it was first published.  Off to the site!

Isn't it cool, Betty?  

Isn't it cool, Betty? Cool  Good karma all round that Harlequin is celebrating its 60th anniversary this year, and Intrigue is celebrating its 25th.

 

Have you checked the Intrigue Authors Group Blog here on eHQ?  We're holding a blog blitz all through the month of August--with several Intrigue authors taking part, and new posts daily.  Plus, we're giving away a book each day to a lucky reader who posts a comment or question.  Check it out at 

 

Hope to "see" you either on my site or the blog!

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Julie's Website Contest

Aaack!  I just got a call from my webmistress that says there's a
mistake in the link on my website to enter my Summer Book GiveAway
contest.  She's in the process of fixing the link today.

However,
if you already entered the contest and did NOT receive a confirmation
email from me, thanking you for the entry, then please resend your
entry to sjmiller87@charter.net.

Otherwise, I'm afraid your entry has gone out into cyberspace and is floating around somewhere.

 

Thanks!  I apologize for the inconvenience.

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Old MS

ChrissieSue,

Actually yes, although most people (editors and authors and agents all) will probably tell you it's not a good idea. I have to agree with that, although I've done it. My friend Sherri Kenyon will take an old idea and rewrite it -- from scratch, rather than trying to redo an old manuscript. She says it's not worth it to try and rework something that didn't work the first time around, but if you believe in your idea, start over with it--fresh.

A Father's Sacrifice, published in 2007, was a book I had pitched originally in 2005. My then editor thought it didn't work. A year later, I revisited it, saw why she said what she said, and asked if I could try to redo it. (I really loved my concept.) I completely reworked it and she liked it that time around. So it can be done.

The only reason I haven't gone back to Dev's book (the one I mentioned) is because I've been too busy. It was the 2nd MS I submitted after selling The Lawman Who Loved Her. I love the book, and have considered posting it chapter by chapter on my website, and/or using Dev as a hero in a different book. I still may someday.

Good luck with reworking your villain. Your concept sounds good! And Intriguey!

Mallory

Mallory Kane
if you're looking for a hero...

Black Hills Brotherhood Trilogy, Sep, Oct, Nov 2009
Watch for a new Silver Star of Texas Trilogy, 2010
mallorykane.com

kstephenson--Here's the

kstephenson--Here's the link for info on the Editor Pitches: http://community.eharlequin.com/content/upcoming-editor-pitches .  Although there isn't any activity going on right now,  I'm assuming more info will show up closer to pitch times.  But you can bookmark it as a favourite to get the announcements in a timely manner.

 

Good luck with your story--sounds like you've got a good, reasonable schedule for finishing and polishing it.  I understand about life being crazy and getting in the way of writing.  I think that's a lesson many published authors have to learn--we might think there's some magic that's going to happen once we sell, and suddenly we'll have all the time in the world to craft our books.  But no, we're still dealing with the real world and fatigue and committments and conflicts, too.  Yell  So learning time management now, knowing what all you have to work around, and still being committed to getting that story done by a self-imposed deadline is admirable.  And invaluable!

 

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Hi Mallory...

I can see why some writers redo a MS fresh. I'm doing a major revision and think maybe I should start fresh. I've made the H&h past lovers. Wow, what a difference that is making. Opens up all kinds of good stuff. And it sure makes the first kiss more reasonable as well as more passionate!

I'm reading the Silver Star of Texas series from last year. (I'm a little behind in my TBR pile.Embarassed) Really enjoying those Rangers. It must take a lot of coordination for three writers to work on a continuity series. What's most challenging and what's most fun about working on a continuity? 

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

Just in case...

 you all haven't seen it yet, there's a forum started with Patricia Rosemoor

 "Suspense & Romance" 

http://community.eharlequin.com/forums/write-stuff/suspense-romance-patricia-rosemoor 

 

sorry, can't seem to make a link.  

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford

Intrigue Pitch Contest

Did everyone see that the discussion for the Intrigue Pitch Contest is up and running?  It's got deadlines and answers to FAQ, plus you can ask more.

Here's the link (I hope!)  http://community.eharlequin.com/forums/write-stuff/editor-pitch-harlequi...

 

Good luck to everyone who plans to enter!  Intrigue is way cool to write for! Cool

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

I'm new and have a question.

Hi everyone,

I've read several recent Harlequin Intrigue and Silhouette Romantic Suspense books. I've looked at the message threads, the writing guidelines and excerpts from currently available books, but can't decided if my story would fit either of those lines.

Is this the appropriate place to ask? If so, I'd like to post a brief overview and see what you all think.

Thanks in advance!

LibbyBeth 

Sure, LibbyBeth, this is

Sure, LibbyBeth, this is the appropriate place to ask.  We love to talk about writing romantic suspense, and especially Intrigues here.

If you check this link http://community.eharlequin.com/content/upcoming-editor-pitches it will also take you to an answer/example about some of the distinctions between a Harlequin Intrigue and a Silhouette Romantic Suspense.  It might help you decide if your story fits into one line or the other.

The basic, of course, is that it has to be romantic suspense--meaning there's a suspense storyline with mystery, action, danger or any combination thereof; and a developing relationship between the hero/ine.  With an Intrigue, the H/h need to have a personal stake in whatever the mystery/danger is that they face.  With SRS, it can be more about the relationship with a suspense backdrop.  The length for the lines should be around 60,000 words.

Adding a faith element would make it Steeple Hill Suspense.   Adding really steamy, frequent love scenes would make it a romantic suspense better suited to Blaze.  Though Intrigues and SRS certainly have love scenes--but there's a different style appropriate to HI/SRS and Blaze.

Like I said, check out the link to the pitches and see if that helps.  Otherwise, maybe ask some more specific questions here, and I'm sure the authors will take a stab at answering them.

 

Good luck!

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Thank you, Julie!

Julie, 

Thank you so much for the link to the upcoming editor pitches. I appreciate it. I also appreciate that you took the time to answer my question. I know you are a busy lady.

By the way, I love "Baby Jane Doe" and "Beast in the Tower." I lived in the Kansas City area for many years and enjoy reading stories set in a familiar location.

The story I'm working on is also set in Kansas City. I've always read that one should write what one knows, so I based my story loosely on a place I used to work.

Here is a brief overview:

The heroine is the buyer for her family's home accessory store. Her father has decided to expand the business and has hired a second buyer (the hero). The heroine will train the new buyer and help him get the new department set up.

The heroine and hero have issues about the opposite sex. The heroine has a boyfriend who is pressuring her to get married. She's dragging her feet. The hero was dumped by a woman he loved and planned to marry. She and the hero worked for the same company, though in different departments. He vows to avoid relationships with women, especially co-workers. 

The heroine discovers that inventory has disappeared. At first, she thinks she's made mistakes, but soon suspects that someone is stealing from the company. In order to investigate her suspicions, she needs the hero's help. There is too much inventory and too much paperwork for one person to investigate alone. She can't reveal her suspicions to anyone because the thief has to be an employee. Since the hero is new and has no ties to anyone in the company, the heroine has to trust him. They have to work together, so they spend a great deal of time together (and, of course, feel attracted to each other and act on the attraction).

The thief begins to suspect that the heroine and hero have discovered the thefts because of the amount of time she and the hero spend in the warehouses. He will do anything to prevent them from discovering the truth...arranging accidents to put them out of commission for a time and cause them to abandon the investigation. When the accidents fail to dissuade them, the thief decides to kill both the hero and heroine. The thief not only needs the money he makes from selling the stolen merchandise, he also wants to punish the owner for refusing to promote him to the position he wants. 

Of course, the hero and heroine discover the truth, defeat the thief, and reveal their love for each other.

I guess that wasn't so brief.

I think I have both the suspense and the romance. What do you all think?

Thanks so much for your input! I appreciate it greatly!

LibbyBeth 

 

Julie Thanks for the

Julie

Thanks for the assistance.  I just got in from work...so you help is much appreciated.

wj

LibbyBeth--I think Kansas

LibbyBeth--I think Kansas City is a great setting. Wink  And you're right, having some of what you know in a story can give it a real sense of authenticity for the reader.

 

It sounds like you've got a good setup for a romantic suspense story here.  I like the idea of building from a crime where no one gets hurt to a crime that is intensely personal.  My only caution--and I know it's hard to consolidate an entire story into a few short paragraphs, so maybe I'm misreadng it--is that you have a lot of backstory here.  A lot of setup.  If you ARE targeting Intrigue, just make sure you get to the suspense elements early in your story (first page/pages, certainly the first chapter) and keep the pacing quick and building in intensity.  Filter in the background of the H/h as you go along, and don't try to get this all in at the beginning of your story.  Like I said, you may have it set up that way in your story, but your blurb here doesn't reflect that.  If you are entering the Pitch Contest, you might want to play with writing short, one-page synopses that are more like back cover blurbs (except with the ending resolution included)--focus more on the hooks of your story and what the danger/suspense elements will be, and less on the background.  A writing exercise to try is to try to express your hero--who he is, enough background to get a sense of his inner conflict, etc.--in one sentence.  Do the same for your heroine and villain.

That exercise is great for writing synopses and blurbs, but it also gives you an idea of what we're talking about when we say "tight writing" or "fast paced".

 

Just some thoughts,

Julie Miller

BEAUTY & THE BADGE-The Precinct, Dec. 2009--an RT Top Pick!
TAKEDOWN--The Precinct, April 2010
The Precinct: SWAT TEAM 1--coming in 2010
RT Career Achievement Award Winner in Series Romantic Suspense!
www.juliemiller.org

Thank you, Julie!

Julie,

Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy schedule to answer my question!

I know I included a lot of backstory and setup in my overview. Some info is filtered into the story along the way (a little at a time, not all at once). I actually began the story at the point the heroine finds out inventory is missing for a number of jobs that must be completed before the end of the week. Immediately after being told that news, the hero arrives and meets the heroine for the first time. As they work to solve the missing merchandise problem, they discover the problem is worse than first suspected. The villain attempts to stop their investigation...and so forth.

Since most of the Intrigues I've read involve police officers, detectives, and so forth, I wanted to be sure the story I'm writing would fit the line.  

Thanks, also, for your suggestions for writing exercises to try. I will work on those. 

Take care!

LibbyBeth 

 

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