BBC: "Everything You Need To Know About Submission"
by Anonymous on June 9th, 2008, 5:00am
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Commonly Needed Links:
These are the main site links for your general submission information:
Theses are the Message Board Links for More Information. (Please note, these are archived discussions and as such, will not have anyone answering new questions.):
This latest spate of links is from Editor and Author specific discussions with current updates on many categories. These will be updated from this point on our message boards.
Dee Tenorio
"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
More Info To Come..
The things we will cover in this thread are what is expected in a submission, the process of submitting and estimated times of response. Also what are the duties of the publisher to you and what are your duties to the publisher.
Feel free at any time to ask questions about submitting and we'll do our best to answer them--which includes any experienced member of Community. :) Discussion is the way in which we all continue to learn.
Dee Tenorio
"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
I'm just sitting here with a....
very evil, very smart a$$ grin, biting my tongue. :-)
But seriously, I'm all ears. Er, eyes!
JodieG
Prepublished and workin' to change that!
A winner of the Big Finish 2 Contest, March 2008!
Participating author in Pass the Plot, Summer 2008
LOL, Jodie...
Feeling experienced? :)
Dee Tenorio
"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
ROTFL, Dee!
Who, me?
JodieG
Prepublished and workin' to change that!
A winner of the Big Finish 2 Contest, March 2008!
Participating author in Pass the Plot, Summer 2008
Feedback
Is feedback from an editor a possibility? I haven't been doing this long, and recently found out that I have made some technical errors in submitting that may have been the reason for the form rejects that I have received...So, upon correcting my mistakes and trying again...would feedback from the editors in question be possible? Is that kind of guidance solely reserved for those who receive the acceptance call or is there a procedure that the editors follow on all ms' they get?
Thanks, Tiff-
There is a feedback letter, Tiff
I won't go too into detail because BBC continues next month with an "Understanding Your Rejection Letter" discussion, but yes, there are all kinds of responses you can get and feedback is generally sent when an editor sees promise in you. It could be as small as your voice catching their eye or your excellent plotting skills... One never knows what does it, but feedback can and often does come in letters and even in phone calls. :)
Eds are really good to us.
Dee
Dee Tenorio
"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
rejections...
Likewise, though, while a detailed rejection letter (or revision request) means an editor sees potential in your writing, a form rejection doesn't necessarily mean that an editor had no smidgen of interest in your work. Sometimes they just have to send form rejections because they have very little time. You just have to keep on going on the next book.
Feckless
Modern Heat/Harlequin Presents author
www.julie-cohen.com
Tiff, Julie, and Dee...
That was a very logical question and equally good answers. I've often wondered about the editors making comments and suggestions. I've received a couple of rejection letters, but not really any personalized feedback. I like Julie's answer about how that it's a matter of how much time the editor might have, and the particular circumstance for whether they comment or not. Every situation is probably a little different. I try not to take my past rejections too hard, and will hopefully learn from every experience I encounter in the future as well. In the meantime while I wait to hear back from SSE, I'm doing just as Julie suggested, and am plotting out my next ms.
I have learned so much from these forums and blogs!
But I have a lot further to go....
"Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see."
- Mark Twain
partial
hello! what is the wait time for a partial manuscript to silhouette desire?
All submission times...
vary from 6 weeks to 3 months. Longer submissions might take up to 6 months.
Although, it should be said that line response times vary due to the vagaries of submissions. Some have higher volume at any given time.
In other words...they don't want us to expect by any certain day, just in case. So, standard rules are to check in in three month increments.
Hope that helps!
Dee
Dee Tenorio
"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
Just thought I'd add that...
This comes in the confirmation email when you submit a Spice Brief: "Please note that due to the recent volume of submissions our response time is anywhere from 3-6 months. Please do not send follow-up queries; we appreciate your patience and will contact you about your manuscript as soon as possible. "
I wonder if this applies to Nocturne Bites as well. They didn't have an autoreply, so I'm not sure ....
JodieG
Prepublished and workin' to change that!
A winner of the Big Finish 2 Contest, March 2008!
Participating author in Pass the Plot, Summer 2008
thanks Dee. Jodie, you just
thanks Dee. Jodie, you just answered my next question. thanks.
Nope, Jodie...
Briefs and Bites are in totally different houses--Toronto and NYC, respectively. If a singular line is mentioned, you can only apply that message to the one line. :)
It'd be nice, though, no?
Dee
Dee Tenorio
"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
Well, that works out OK...
Then I can feel a little bit better sending in my "it's been over three months" email to Bites. I'm starting to worry they don't have it -- and if they don't, and I need to re-send, I'm going to try it via the Bites pitch! :-) If they have it and it's in queue, well, then I'll just grow some patience. Thanks!
Edited to add I just sent a nice note asking if they have my ms, or if I need to re-send.
JodieG
Prepublished and workin' to change that!
A winner of the Big Finish 2 Contest, March 2008!
Participating author in Pass the Plot, Summer 2008
RS response time
Anyone have any idea what the response time is for RS's. I've had one there since beginning of January.
Thanks...
Boofny
writing as Teagan Oliver
www.TeaganOliver.com
Romance, Mystery and maybe a bit of Murder...
Howdy Boofny
Response times are generally the same as listed above.
Hope that helps,
Dee
Dee Tenorio
"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
Submission etiquette and waiting
I'm not really sure where I should be asking these questions but thought that this may be a good place?
I sent a partial in to MB Modern Heat in May and I haven’t heard anything (not surprised), but I haven’t even had the SSA postcard to say it’s been received. Is this normal?
Since then I moved on and I am half way through another manuscript for Modern Heat, which I aim to have re-drafted, edited and ready to send as a partial by the end of July. Can I still send it to MB Modern Heat even though I haven’t heard anything about the first one, or is this considered ‘bombarding them with manuscripts’?
One final Q. For my first submission I sent it off with a ‘for the attention of Joanne Carr’ slip (which I’d received when I heard back from the Presents competition). Obviously I haven’t got another slip but would it be ok to send my next manuscript off addressed to Joanne Carr, or is that just bad manners?
Thanks for any help and advice you can offer!
Cigars guest
Hey folks, I thought you might like to know that we're having Chris Roerden on Cigars (link below) tomorrow, and she's written Don't Murder Your Mystery, but also Don't Sabotage Your Submission -- so you may want to drop by and check her out if you are subbing to lines like Intrigue or with general submission questions...
Clarisa, if you didn't receive your post card, I think it's okay to check, IMO.
However, no, you cannot "bombard" eds with submissions -- until you sell and have an editor to work with, you are only advised to submit one ms at a time. It's frustrating, I know, but it's how it's done. You have to wait until you have word on the first one. (You can submit a different ms to a different line, however) However, it's good that you have more work in the wings for when the time comes!
I don't know about your third question, so will leave that one to someone else. :)
Sam
July 2009: Sam's Blaze Texas Ranger is HARD TO RESIST!
Blog with Sam and friends at Love Is An Exploding Cigar
Guest Blog: Dec 4, Lucy Gordon!
Sam definitely got the first two questions for you...
Question 3 is yes, you do send to the same editor again. She's the one requesting you, by sending to her again, you begin to build a relationship with her. That working relationship is how most writers get feedback from editors. She'll be able to see your work change and develop by seeing your subs over time and be able to guide accordingly.
Hope that helps!
Dee
Dee Tenorio
"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
query
hi! should new writers query with editorial assistants first or should they just query directly with senior editors?
If you've never submitted before...
or to a certain line before, always send to the Senior editor on the Writing Guideline's page. New subs are assigned to an editor at the Senior's descretion and when they get back to you, then you can submit to that assigned editor with your revisons, if requested, or with your next project query.
:)
Dee
Dee Tenorio
"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
thanks
thanks Dee
Hey Clarissa
Two submissions since the Presents comp- I'm impressed.
My compliments slip is still languishing waiting for me to finsih something. new. Started four new stories, and once the current day job hell is done with I will get goiing seriously on one of them, but I think my heart is still with finsihing the comp entry....
Because we all deserve a happy ending!
My blog- http://waitingforthecall.wordpress.com/
Ok, beginner here. and needing guidance
I can see already I will need to do a lot more reading of the posts, but a quick question right now is this....
If I have written the book, and rewritten it until I am happy with it, do I submit MY final version for reading, or do I just send my umcompleted version?
OK, I just found this and answered one question: Do not send any material that is being considered by another publisher.
That will keep me straight for now, but something else I just read, we have to TYPE our manuscripts? They can't be done on the computer and printed on good paper?