Honing Your Pitch With Winnie Griggs

Join us this week as Winnie Griggs teaches us how to hone our pitches and make the most of having the attention of an editor. She's given this workshop at conferences and had a SRO attendance. Grab your notebooks and pencils, folks and let's all give her a warm, welcome!

 

About the Author:

Born and raised in the bayou country of southeast Louisiana, Winnie moved to the opposite corner of the state when she married her college sweetheart over 25 years ago. She and her husband, along with their four teenage children, reside in Plain Dealing, a small community nestled in the piney hill country of northwest Louisiana.

With a BS degree in mathematics and a minor in Computer Science, Winnie has held an 8:00-5:00 job in the Computer Programming/ Information Technology field since she graduated from college. But her first love has always been reading and writing romances.Her biggest thrill came in May of 2000 when she received that dream-come-true call heralding her first sale.

Winnie belongs to numerous writing organizations, including Romance Writers’ of America and several of its local and special interest chapters. She is active in these groups as well as in her church - after all, she’s a firm believer in the adage that you reap in proportion to what you sow.

Currently Available Books:

Philadelphia lawyer Ryland Lassiter is everything Josephine Wylie wants—for a brother-in-law! As the sole supporter of her family, Josie's plans for herself have always had to wait. But Ryland will be ideal as the new head of the Wylie clan…once he finally realizes how perfect he is for Josie's sister.

Ry knows it's time to settle down. The newly appointed guardian to a friend's daughter, he's ready for a home and family. All he needs is a bride…and Josie's sister is not the Wylie who has caught his eye. If only Josie would see the truth—that the only Christmas present he needs is her love.

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Hello everyone,

I’m really excited to be here with you this week.  I count it both an honor and a pleasure to have been invited to talk with you a bit about pitching your work to editors, and I hope we’ll have some fun as we discuss this topic together.

 

As for my credentials, several years ago I developed a workshop on how to prepare for and present verbal pitches to editors and agents.  I’ve presented this workshop at a number of writers’ conferences since then, most notably at the Romance Writers’ of America annual conference during each of the past three years.     

 

That being said, I will admit that verbal pitches differ from written ones in a few subtle but significant ways and this is my first foray into discussing that difference.  So be patient with me and feel free to question anything that seems counter-intuitive to you or that needs clarification.

 

A few things you need to know about this workshop:

·         I'm NOT an expert on this topic. In fact, quite the opposite.  It is always easier for me to come up with a pitch for someone else’s stories than for my own.

·        There are any number of approaches to crafting a pitch and this is merely my take on how to do it.  If there is another approach that works better for you, please do not feel you have to change based on my notes.

·        I will illustrate the lessons by crafting a pitch for my March 2009 book, The Hand-Me-Down Family, as we go. 

·        Ask questions and share your thoughts at any time. I love to chat and share
ideas, and best of all discover new approaches, so please, fire away.

Now, let’s get on with the actual topic you of crafting a pitch.

 

Normally, with a verbal pitch, you’d let the editor know what line your book is targeted to, the word count and whether or not its complete.  By doing targeted pitches on this forum you can safely skip that step.

 

In fact, it’s my understanding that the pitches on these forums consist of a logline and two paragraphs.  So let’s talk about the logline first.

 What you want to do here is give the editor a broad-stroke picture of the type of story you’ve written.  The use of a log line, or concept line, provides a familiar shorthand approach to getting your story concept across in an effective, memorable way.   

One of the ways to do this is to take a familiar story line and couple it with something unexpected that explains why your take is unique or will stand out. 

  

You can start with one of the well-known story lines such as:

·        Marriage of Convenience
·        Secret Baby
·        Beauty and the Beast
·        Rags To Riches
·        Poor Little Rich Girl 

Or you can use a familiar book or movie as your starting point.  For example:

·        Pollyanna

·        Runaway Bride

·        Count of Monte Cristo

·        Gone With The Wind

  

Next you introduce the twist.  This would work something like:

·        Elle Woods meets The Terminator

·        A Beauty and the Beast story set in outer space

·        A Cinderella story with the male and female roles reversed

·        A modern day Count of Monte Cristo

 

Each of these lines gives your reader (the editor) an immediate image of what kind of story you are pitching.

   

There’s a second method of doing this, the Who-What-How approach.  Basically you identify your lead character, his/her problem and what he/she must do to solve that problem.  In order for this to be a true logline, however, you must do this VERY succinctly.

 

For instance, take the movie Kate and Leopold starring Meg Ryan and Hugh Jackman.  Boiling the story down to a logline might look something like the following:

 

A nineteenth century duke, reluctantly facing an arranged marriage, time travels to present day New York where he finds his true love in the form of a high powered career woman.

 

To break it down:

Who (protagonist):  A nineteenth century duke

What (dilemma): facing an arranged (loveless) marriage

How (way to resolve problem): time travels and finds his true love

  

Applying this to our own work:
For my book, I used the first approach and came up with the following:   

  The Hand-Me-Down Family is an adversarial Marriage of Convenience story with a Yours, Mine and Ours twist.  

Okay - time for you to give it a try.  Work on the logline (or concept line) for your own story and if you want to post your efforts here I’ll be glad to give you my feedback.  And again, feel free to ask questions and share thoughts.

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Thank you!

I just wanted to welcome you, and thank you for coming to chat with us.  I love the start, and I can't wait to come up with a logline to get your input on.  Once again.. Thank you....  Donya

If you have never loved.. you have never really lived!

Welcome, Winnie

How very exciting and very much needed as we have two pitches in Feb and two in March and I'm pretty sure at least one of them will be asking for a logline. At least they have in the past. Irregardless, the information Winnie is presenting is priceless.

Thank you for joining us this week, Winnie. I'm looking forward to seeing some loglines today! Don't be shy!

Rae

Thank you Winnie!

Here I go:

A modern day demon hunter, Hell bent on revenge, finds redemption in the arms of an unlikely savior.

Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.

OK can I have some help?

I keep wanting to put too much into my line!  How can I be succinct?  This is skill I need to develop.

My overall story is targeted at medical romance.  Title right now is "The Independant Midwife".  The story is a midwife who has diabetes finds herself pregnant after one night stand.  Hero is consultant who is widowed after wife and child died in labour.  His problem - is he really over the death of his wife and child and ready to move on.  Her problem - the loss of independance as she needs support with her condition through the pregnancy.  Help me get this in one line!

Melinda

Yours is fab!!!!!!!!

Thanks Susan,

You can do it - just take a notebook and write the words who, what and how - it will come to you!

Hello!

Good morning everyone and thanks for the warm welcome.  Glad to see everyone is ready to dive into this.  Give me a few minutes to read everyone's posts and then I'll give you what feedback I can.

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Hi Melinda

>>A modern day demon hunter, Hell bent on revenge, finds redemption in the arms of an unlikely savior.

A very intriguing opening - piqued my interest for sure, and opened questions in my mind, which is a good thing. 

However, I think you could tweek it a bit to make it stronger.  The two pieces 'Hell bent on revenge'  and  'finds redemption'  don't quite connect to each other for me.  Is the redemption tied to the drive for revenge?  If so, maybe you could change it to 'consumed by revenge' or 'whose soul is eaten up by the need for revenge'  to give it the nuance that it is something actively harmful to him (her?)

Again, you know your story better than I do, so feel free to ignore this if it doesn't fit. 

 

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Yes!

Winnie you are so right.  I knew I wasn't quite getting those parts to connect.  Your suggestions are just what I needed and much appreciated.

Thanks,

Melinda

Hi Susan

Oh my, if my friends (and editor!) could hear you ask ME for help with being succint they'd be rolling on the floor laughing.  This is something I struggle with quite a bit.  But I'll do my best. 

First off, I know in a romance both the hero and heroine have a character arc, but unless they have a common goal (ie:  A master barbecue chef and a dedicated PETA member must join forces to save the earth from man-eating aliens) then you need to focus on just one of the characters for your logline.  For instance, in the example I gave from Kate and Leopold above, I focused on Leopold.  If I had chosen to focus on Kate, the logline might have read something like:  A driven career woman with little time for romance, gets a soul-satisfying taste of what she’s been missing, but learns that to hold on to it she must chose to permanently leave the world she’s known behind 

Both are accurate overviews of the story.  I chose to focus on Leopold, however, because I found his logline more compelling and with more of a 'hook' (time traveller angle) to catch the editor's eye.

Based on what you've given me, I don't have enough to give a good go at the first method of crafting a logline, so let's go with the second - the Who-What-How method.   Since the working title of your story has the focus on her, we'll focus on her story journey.

WHO  -  a fiercely independent midwife
WHAT - needs help to get her through the pregnancy
HOW - seeks assistance from a hurting soul

Pulling it together, it might come out:  A fiercely independent midwife, finding herself single and pregnant, must swallow her pride and seek help from a grieving man who doesn't really want any personal entanglements.

Okay, that's pretty rough, and, given that I don't really know your story, may not exactly fit, but hopefully it gives you a place to start.

 

 

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Wow! Thanks Winnie

I'd heard of pitches on eharlequin before but never heard of loglines.  With a medical pitch coming up in March I'm going to start working hard.  I know you're only allowed 2 paragraphs so I was thinking along the lines of what you read on the back of a book?  I know if it hooks my interest and I want to know more then usually I'll buy the book. 

How do you aim pitches?

Winnie

Great topic and very timely!  I love using a logline and had never heard of it until I read Save the Cat.

It's something I struggle with too.  :-)  I am with you with the editor rolling around laughing, lol!  I'm sure she despairs of me when I try to explain - succinctly - what I have in mind for my next project.

Donna

PROUD RANCHER, PRECIOUS BUNDLE, M&B Romance UK, October 2010, NA Feb 2011
CHRISTMAS WISHES & MISTLETOE KISSES (A Bride For Rocking H Ranch) UK, Nov 2010
HONEYMOON WITH THE RANCHER, UK March 2011, NA TBD
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Perfect timing!

Thanks so much for this, Winnie! I'm currently working on a story aimed at Supers and want to enter their pitch contest.

I've always had problems with loglines.

My story is about Meg who owns a run-down seaside boarding house where she mothers her collection of resident misfits and eccentrics, and is determined never to need anyone ever again after her painful childhood; and Nick a hot-shot big city lawyer from a close but interfering family who believes in love at first sight, and knows Meg is the one woman for him. How can he convince Meg they belong together, when the gap between their worlds is so great, and she doesn't want to believe in a forever kind of love? 

I'm not sure what the "hook" is here. It's not Cinderella, despite the differences in their situations, because she's left her painful past behind and made a good life for herself, and in the end the "Prince" plans to eventually leave his castle to live a simpler life.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'll be very pleased to hear them!

I guess the story reverses the usual idea of the commitment phobic male and the marriage minded woman by making it the hero who wants marriage and children and believes in true love, and the woman the one who wants to avoid that (as a self-protective thing because she doesn't trust, and doesn't believe anyone would love her)

LOL on you not being good at pitches, Donna! You gave some great advice when you ran your pitch contest on your blog!

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Log line - is it enough?

Wealthy socialite in danger seeks help from estranged husband.

Lorraine
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Participant in Writer's Challenge 2009-10

Wonderful Winnie

I just knew I had to duck in to wave hello when I saw one of my all-time favorite people here!  Hello, Winnie!  And to everyone honing pitches, you've come to the right place. This is an outstanding workshop and Winnie has a keen eye for focusing and streamlining story concepts into their meatiest, most intriguing form.  Good luck to everyone whipping their pitches into editor-ready shape!

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You're welcome Susan

Glad my feedback helped.  We'll be working on those two paragraphs during the next few days.  As for your question, I'm not exactly certain what you mean by aiming pitches.  Can you expand on that a little?

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Hi Donna!

Thanks for stopping by.  Please do feel free to jump in and add your own thoughts at any time if you'd like.

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Mulberry

Hi!  Sounds like a great story.  I love those wounded heroines who generously give of themselves to everyone else and in the end finally lands the perfect hero to cherish and show her her true worth.

 Since most of us are working with romances, we know that the story is going to revolve around the growing relationship between the hero and the heroine.  But even though way down deep, so deep it may be hidden even from themselves, they want a loving relationship, the hero and heroine usually have another goal they are focused on at the beginning of the story and I don't see much evidence of that here.  What is it that Meg wants?  Is something threatening her boarding house?  Are some of her tenants in trouble?  Is Nick involved in either helping or hindering her goal?  What about Nick?  Does he have something he's working toward besides convincing Meg they belong together?

I think answering these questions will help you construct your logline more effectively.  Feel free to fire questions back at me if this wasn't very clear 

 

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Jane. I think what you have

Jane. I think what you have here is a set-up but not a plot. I get that all the time with my stories. The characters and their circumstances come first, often really vividly, but then I need to make them *do* stuff, be active, have an agenda and a goal - especially if their goals can clash. ;)

Maybe Meg's boarding-house is in trouble, and Nick steps in to help, but she resents his interference and can't see past her desire for independence to the genuine feelings she's developing for this man.

Just a thought.

PS. Sorry, just realised that Winnie said something v. similar! Oh well.

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Lorraine

>>Wealthy socialite in danger seeks help from estranged husband.

I think you have a really good start on a logline here, but while we do want these to be short, I think you need to flesh it out just a little more.  You want this to really pop and right now it is somewhat generic.  For instance, is there some other word/phrase you can add to the description of your wealthy socialite to make her more memorable (flighty, prim, barren, hypochondriac).  And give us a little bit more about this danger she's facing - what/who presents the danger? what form does it take?  You say her husband is estranged, but is he  hostile, indifferent, bitter?

Hope this helps. 

 

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Joanne!!

Hi girlfriend!  Thanks for stopping by and offering a welcome.  And thanks too for the kind words, but you know you played a part here.  I still remember those sessions where a group of us circled around someone's coffee table and practiced condensing our stories down to their very essence.  I learned a lot from you lady.

Thanks and take care.

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Wonderful Winnie!!

I just had to come over and wave to my dear, BRILLIANT friend Winnie!  Winnie's pitch workshop has been so very well received at the local chapter and national level.  She's a super savvy author.  Thanks, Winnie, for being so generous with your time here at eHq!

Congrats, Winnie, on your awesome line up of books coming out. :-)

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Hi Catherine!!

Back atcha girl!  Thanks for stopping by, and thanks for setting me on the road to presenting this workshop way back when.  Hope our paths cross again sometime real soon.

Take care

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Me me?

From the moment I started writing - with aim to get published, about six months ago, this is the first time I'm participating in a pitch / logline workshop...  Thanks a lot for such a hands-on opportunity..

Till now I had been worrying about the synopsis and making sure I can cover my story in 2 pages.. But well, a single line..and then into 2 para-blurb.. I think that's something I really need to work on... Esp before the upcoming pitches..

Here is my (first) attempt on a logline on the paranormal I am targetting.. (Please help if I am messing up here)

(1) A succubus has to seduce the enemy, gather information to trace the killer, before she becomes the next target/victim.

OR

(2) A fae, driven by loss of his brother and the need to fit with fairies, is on a mission to capture the hidden succubae, until he is seduced by one and is forced to acknowledge the truth - All succubae aren't bad and they are being ruthlessly killed by an enemy he could'nt have imagined. 

Now, am totally confused.. If I put in a single line.. It kind of seems bland.. in (1), and then if I try to put some more action into it, then it becomes longer than a line as in (2)..

And here, which is the strong one? I mean, (1) is from heroine's perspective.. and (2) is from hero's perspective..

Any suggestions ?

--
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Winnie, thanks for doing this workshop.


It's just what we need to get ready for the pitch.

I’ve been using GMC to work out my two paragraph blurbs, but still need to learn more how to do that. I'm looking forward to that part of the workshop, too.

Doing the log line has been hard. The Who What How is a great help. Also the themes. (I have a list of themes that Vince Plato sent me a couple of years ago. I could post it here if anyone would like some ideas of where their story fits.)

This is what I came up with using the WWH approach:

A fiery Italian-American music teacher, plagued by bad luck, crash lands in the Canadian Rockies during a blizzard, landing in the arms of a Mountie who loves everything Italian but isn’t ready for a relationship.

I'd like to get in some where that his assignment is looking for drug runners in the wilderness, and that he thinks his job is too dangerous to start a relationship. But I guess that's too much. Boy, it’s hard to condense 65,000 words to one sentence. Surprised I read here somewhere that the log line should be one sentence, two at the most.

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Anju

You wrote

>>>
(1) A succubus has to seduce the enemy, gather information to trace the killer, before she becomes the next target/victim.
OR
(2) A fae, driven by loss of his brother and the need to fit with fairies, is on a mission to capture the hidden succubae, until he is seduced by one and is forced to acknowledge the truth - All succubae aren't bad and they are being ruthlessly killed by an enemy he could'nt have imagined. 
<<<<

Great job.  I would definitely go with the first one.  It has more focus and clarity which makes it more memorable.  I would perhaps tighten it just a bit more, though, to give it just a bit extra focus - something along the lines of
A succubus must seduce the enemy in order to gather information on a killer before she becomes his next victim.

What do you think?

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Oh My :) !

Hi Winnie,

Wow, that's a great input you have there.. And I am like..seeing my own words with a new focus and realizing, it's not as bad as I imagined it to be..  :) It gives me a bit more confidence to attempt the same for the rest of my half-finished stories...

I'll surely use your advise, on "who, what how" since it gives a very simple, clear picture of the story and highlights the main conflict..  I'm really happy to get such great help !

Thanks a lot for the tightening too - I really felt something was missing in my sentence and you really put them together !

--
Anju / Ju Dimello
http://judimello.blogspot.com/

Chrissie Sue

>>>>A fiery Italian-American music teacher, plagued by bad luck, crash lands in the Canadian Rockies during a blizzard, landing in the arms of a Mountie who loves everything Italian but isn’t ready for a relationship.

This is a really good start, but I think we can work to take this to the next level.  First off, the phrase 'plagued by bad luck' while intriguing, doesn't really contribute to the impact of your logline.  Try cutting it and see what you think.
Next, I am a little confused about the goals of your hero.  You describe him as a music teacher yet later in your note talk about his assignment to search out drug runners.  Is he really an undercover agent of some sort?  If so, I would make that clear up front.  And is there some goal of his you can hit on here besides the romance aspect (you'll play up the romance in the next part of your pitch).  Maybe something like:A fiery Italian-American undercover agent, crash lands in the Canadian Rockies while hunting drug runners and is forced to work with a commitment-phobic female Mountie to complete his assignment.Of course this probably doesn't capture your story at all, but maybe it will give you something to think about as you hone your pitch further.

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Anju - You're welcome!

Glad I could help but you did the hard part.  The pieces were all there - I just tweeked them.

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Honing Your Pitch - Part 2

Hello again.  I'll be toddling off to bed in a few minutes since tomorrow is a work day for me.  I'll be getting up about 5:15 to get ready to head into the office.  Which means I won't be quite as responsive to your posts until about 4:00 CST or so.  But don't let that slow you down.  I'll get to everyone's posts as soon as I can.

I’m going to go ahead and post the next discussion point - but please feel free to continue working on your loglines and posting them here.

 

In this post I’m going to discuss the second part of our pitch.  Here is where we tell the editor who this story is about - and since we are talking romance you need to do this for both the hero and the heroine.  There are three components to telling us who these characters are:

 

1.      Unique descriptor:  Paint a quick word-picture using character, occupational or situational attributes.  Make it something memorable, something that intrigues the reader and has them curious to learn more.  Examples:

  • Macy is a former trapeze artist now grounded by impending motherhood
  • Alexis is a portrait painter who is slowly losing her sight
  • Dorothy is small town girl with big city dreams
  • Camille is a lifelong wallflower who finds herself unwillingly thrust into the limelight
  • Judith is a workaholic exec who has found infant twins on her doorstep

2.      What does she want - This is the goal she is working toward, what drives and energizes her.  A component of this part of her description would also be at least a hint of why it is important to her.

  • Angie is determined to get in shape in order to run the marathon that was her deceased twin’s dream  
  • Zoe wants to learn telegraphy so that she can prove to herself and others that she doesn’t need a husband to make it in life
  • Eleanor puts everything else in her life on hold in order to work toward getting the promotion at work, a prize that she feels will lead to the upscale lifestyle she’s always yearned for  

3.      What stands in her way - This is, of course, the obstacle that keeps her from achieving her goal.

  • There is another candidate for the position she is pursuing
  • She must earn additional funds before she can pay off the mortgage on the family ranch
  • She refuses to trust the one person who holds the key to helping her

   

Once you’ve figured this out for the heroine, you need to go through the same steps to describe your hero.

 

Again, for my book The Hand-Me-Down Family, this is how I paint the picture of who my hero and heroine are.

 Callista Johnson, disfigured since birth and hedged about by her over-protective family, longs to find a real purpose to her existence, to know that she has made a positive impact in someone else’s life.  Her reclusive lifestyle, however, offers few opportunities for meaningful interactions.    Jackson Tyler, lone wolf and demolitions expert, got stuck with enough hand-me-downs during his growing up years to last him a lifetime.   Determined to escape his older brother’s considerable shadow, he left home as soon as he was old enough to strike out on his own and never looked back. 

After you’ve done this, the next step is to give us a quick note about the inciting incident, the action or thing that stirs up the routine of their lives and sets them on the new path that is your story.  I've inserted this info into my paragraph in bold type:

 Callista Johnson, disfigured since birth and hedged about by her over-protective family, longs to find purpose to her life, to know that she has made a real difference in someone else’s life.  Her reclusive lifestyle, however, offers few opportunities for meaningful interactions until she receives a marriage proposition from the widower of a childhood friend.    Jackson Tyler, lone wolf and demolitions expert, got stuck with enough hand-me-downs during his growing up years to last him a lifetime.   Determined to escape his older brother’s considerable shadow, he left home as soon as he was old enough to strike out on his own and never looked back. Until the day he receives a telegram that blows apart his world.  His brother, along with his sister and brother-in-law, have died in a tragic fire and between them left three young children with no other relatives to care for them but him - or so he thinks.   

(I warned you I had problems with brevity) 
So now it’s your turn.  Put some thought into how you would condense the essence of your characters, their tags, goals and obstacles into a few sentences.  Then gives us the incident that propels them into your story journey.   Feel free to post your draft here if you want some feedback on them.  Feel free, too, to post any questions you may have.

 

And stay tuned for Part 3 where we’ll discuss conflict.

 

 

Tales of Small Towns, Big Hearts, Amazing Grace
The Heart's Song, LI June 2010
The Proper Wife, LIH March 2011
www.winniegriggs.com

Winnie…


Ooo, guess I better work on that logline! Actually, the music teacher is the heroine and the Mountie is the hero. Your sentence structure is very helpful. Here's another try. 

 A fiery Italian-American music teacher crash lands in the Canadian Rockies with her high school choral group, and lands in the arms of a commitment-phobic Mountie searching for drug runners.  

"Whether you think you can or think you can't…you're right." ~Henry Ford
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My loglines and my story.

1st try at loglines.

Alexis Montgomery causes a near tragedy, because she hasn‘t dealt with her grief, reverting back to what she has learned over the years she packs everything up and moves to start a new life.

A widower, thinks love only comes once, so he puts all his attention to taking care of his son while managing two businesses.

Two Paragraphs

Alexis Montgomery was used to avoiding her problems with fresh starts. Since her mother died leaving her in foster care she became accustomed to moving and starting over. So when she causes a near tragedy she bolts. It wasn’t until she meets Ryan…. A widow, trying to run two businesses and raise his seven year old son on his own, that she could see how fear can truly make someone run away and miss out on life.

Ryan … had the love of his life taken away from him way to early. Now he only sees living as surviving for his son, but when Alexis starts helping out with Tyler he is forced to reexamine his thoughts.

Can these two people ever get passed their fears, failures, and grief from the past in order to start anew together. Will Alexis finally find the HOME she has been seeking for years?

 

I don’t know if I need to include this in the work up or not. I was trying to minimize it.

(It is revealed in the story that Alexis is a medical student who was interning. Ryan's mother-in-law collapses in front  of her, and her training kicks in so she saves her.  This is the first place anyone really learns of her past, because she has been avoiding talking about it. So I didn't know whether to include it in the 2 paragraphs or not? She goes to check on a cancer patient. The patient codes in front of her, and she freezes reliving flashbacks from when her mother died the same way. IT isn’t until she moves and runs away to start over that she meets Ryan’s son Tyler, and through him she starts to deal with some of her own demons. )

(Grief, leaving her career, her desire to want to help people is all examined.)

The two have a fight and she leaves to return to medical school in the next town, while Ryan tries to get past his grief. So it took them a lot of soul searching, and one grieving little boy to realize they can find a HOME together, which is something neither of them thought they would have again.

Definition of HOME for them is a safe, loving environment, where they can trust and relax enough to be themselves. It is where love exists in vast proportions.

 

Thank you for your help.  This is very fun and infomrative!  Donya

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This is fun, isn't it? My

This is fun, isn't it?

My current WIP is a regency romance. No Historical pitches on the cards just yet, but I thought I'd give loglines a go anyway, in case it helps me firm up the plot:

A horse-mad heiress, posing as an earl's groom, is forced to confront the demons in her past when the earl discovers her gender - and tries to persuade her back into petticoats.

 

"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it." (Winston Churchill)

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Busy Bees

Wow!

You've all been busy! I'm learning right along with all of you as this is my least favorite part--aside from a synopsis. Wink I'm hoping you all blow away our editors in future pitches with what you learn here with Winnie.

Winnie, you rock! I can't say that enough. She's one of the sweetest ladies I've met and I love her accent. Y'all should hear her talk! Wink

I guess this is where I hint too that next week, one of the authors who popped in here will be holding her own pitch contest where she chooses a winner to mentor. That'd be Donna Alward. So, if all of this and the upcoming pitches haven't given you enough incentive to push yourselves to learn how to do this effectively, there's one more little...shove.

Rae

Hello everyone!

Wow! I was missing this great thread, thanks to Cathy,  I
found it!

This is essential information for any writer, and Winnie
teaches it like nobody else.

 

Glad to see everyone's been busy.

Looks like you folks have been hard at it since I last checked in.  I'm going to slip a couple of posts in while I'm waiting for my conference call to start, then maybe get another couple done on my lunch hour.

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Chrissy Sue

LOL - I had it all backwards didn’t I?  So let’s take a look at your new version. 

A fiery Italian-American music teacher crash lands in the Canadian Rockies with her high school choral group, and lands in the arms of a commitment-phobic Mountie searching for drug runners.

This statement is clearer, but I still feel something is missing.  I’m wondering, since your hero seems to be the one here with the biggest external goal, how this might read if you switched it around and came at it from his perspective?

 

A commitment-phobic Mountie must pursue drug runners in the Canadian wilderness while keeping the highly attractive music teacher who crash landed in his lap at arms length.

 

Ok - needs work and may not be spot on for your story, but why don’t you give it a go and see what you can come up with.

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Logline effort # 2

Hi Winnie.  Thanks for the feedback.  Does this one cover all the bases and sound more interesting?

Wealthy, city socialite and single mom of twin boys is faced with danger from a crazed stalker and turns to her estranged and bitter cowboy husband for help.

Lorraine
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Donya/Sassy Mystic

 

Wow, you've been busy - lots of good stuff to look at here.

Let's start with your loglines.  Both of these sentences provide great character insights, but they don't provide the quick shorthand view of your story that editors look for in a logline.  To do that, you need to think of the overarching plot type (Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella, Secret Baby, Reunion story, etc) or the high level Who-What-How that I described in an earlier post.

So let's try the Who-What-How approach for your work based on the information you've provided:

WHO:  a cut-and-run inclined medical intern
WHAT: looking for Home (sense of belonging, acceptance?)
HOW:  face her fears

Putting it together

A medical intern who is inclined to cut and run at the first hint of failure realizes that to find the longed-for  place to call home she must stand firm and face her biggest fears

I'm not completely happy with that.  Why don't you go back and tweek my WWH based on your much better knowledge of your story and then shapren this logline.

I'll cover your paragraphs in another post.

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Winnie,

Do you lead off with your log line in the blurb, for example:

A modern day demon hunter, whose soul is eaten up by revenge, finds redemption in the arms of an unlikely savior.  Healer has been searching for the demon who brutally murdered his sister two years ago.  Now his closest lead is the demon's next victim, Krystina Hall, who has come to him in need of protection.

That's where I am at so far, but is that the correct way to start?

Thanks,

Melinda 

 

An attempt at the two paragraphs

Melissa Bell is a fiercely independant midwife who has always kept her diabetes firmly under control.  She longs for a family but after her commitment phobic fiance leaves she thinks she's lost her chance.  Cooper Roberts lost his wife and baby daughter 2 years ago.  He has decided to put the past behind him and has moved to a new city and hospital where he can't be haunted by old ghosts.

A one night stand results in a pregnancy from two people who really should know better.  Melissa is struggling to cope with the effects the pregnancy is having on her diabetes, she needs help fast but is terrified of losing her independance.  Cooper can't believe his first foray back into the land of the living has catapulted him into this.  Has he really stopped grieving for his wife and can he really move on and grab a chance of a new family?

 

Oh boy that was hard - I want to write so much more!!!

That sounds like a great

That sounds like a great story, Susan!

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I'm back

Hi again.   I'm going to munch on my sandwich and read through the latest posts, giving what feedback I can before my lunch break is over.

Can't wait to read everyone's notes!

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Donya/Sassy Mystic - Part 2

In reading over your notes (story sounds great BTW!) there is a lot of information here.  And that's a problem because it is too much to really focus the editor in on the heart of your story.  We need to take the information , boil it down and really focus it.

 

Based on what you have here, I came up with this rough draft off the top of my head.

 

Having been shuffled from place to place as she grew up in the foster care system, Alexis, now a medical intern,  has allowed ‘moving on’ to become her default way of life.  Though she longs for the security and love of a  home and family of her own, she nevertheless faces life’s roadblocks and tragedies by severing old connections and looking for a fresh start elsewhere.    Ryan, a widower and single parent, is trying to run two businesses and raise his seven year old son on his own.  Still grieving over the loss of his wife, he refuses to let anything - or anyone - else into his life.

 

That gives us the first part of our character paragraph.  (Again, this is rough and based on my interpretation of your story.  You’ll want to work with it and make it your own).  I wasn’t able to tell from your information what the inciting incident is for each of your protagonists.  What is it that happens to each of them to set their life on a new path, one that will result in them finally achieving their Happily Ever After?  Why don’t you work with it and see what you can come up with. 

 

By the way, some of the other info you have here will come in handy when we look at the next part of our pitch - the conflict and wrap-up paragraph.

 

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Jane_H

 

Hi there!  And you're more than welcome to come in and play with us - I'm rather partial to historicals myself   Smile

So let's take a look at your logline

>>>A horse-mad heiress, posing as an earl's groom, is forced to confront the demons in her past when the earl discovers her gender - and tries to persuade her back into petticoats.

A very good start, but I think it needs a little something added to punch it up a bit.  Is there some very succinct way to tell us why she's posing as an earl's groom (on a lark, to escape danger, to assert her independence, etc), and/or what those demons in her past are?  I'm not sure you need that last bit ‘and tries to persuade her back into petticoats' - play with it a bit and see if you think it is stronger or weaker for the changes.  You're almost there!

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Thanks!

Hi Rae and Joanna!  Thanks for stopping by to check things out and for your kind words.

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Lorraine's Logline #2

 You wrote:
 

Does this one cover all the bases and sound more interesting?
Wealthy, city socialite and single mom of twin boys is faced with danger from a crazed stalker and turns to her estranged and bitter cowboy husband for help.

 

Oh yes, this sounds much stronger to me.  I'd just do some slight tweeking to keep it as focused and lean as possible.

A wealthy socialite and single mother of twins, faced with danger from a crazed stalker, turns to a cowboy - her bitter and estranged husband -  for help.

Good job!

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Melinda's question

You wrote:

Do you lead off with your log line in the blurb, for example: A modern day demon hunter, whose soul is eaten up by revenge, finds redemption in the arms of an unlikely savior.  Healer has been searching for the demon who brutally murdered his sister two years ago.  Now his closest lead is the demon's next victim, Krystina Hall, who has come to him in need of protection.

 

I suppose technically you could do it either way.  But to give it true power as a logline, I'd set it off by itself.

 

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Thanks Winnie,

That's a big help. I'll try some from the Hero's POV when I get home from work tonight. BTW, your paragraphs make me want to buy the book, that's for sure.

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