my ignorance in things I took for granted like uneven sidewalks

I admit I took a lot of things for granted until they affected me. There are a lot of times where I can sympathize with a person but may never really know what they go through unless I walk a mile in their shoes. I never really noticed how uneven some sidewalks were or the curbs not gradually meeting a street until I had to start using a walker 6 years ago. I still have the ability to lift and maneuver the walker over these obsticles but I thought about people who couldn't like wheelchairs, scooters etc. Maneuvering around these obsticles in summer is harder because I usually have a big basket of groceries. Then today since it was nice out and I got that cooped up feeling I thought I'd go for a walk. Not the 5 minute walk to the corner store but the hour walk that takes me to the Post office, grocery store, Wal-mart and drugstore. I walked into wal-mart and to me it was chaos. I realize everyone is out getting their Easter stuff but they put the stuff in the aisles right by the front door so you immediately have to dodge a crowd. I hate crowds. I walked into a dollar store, carts were everywhere, boxes were in the middle of aisles and the crowds were unbelievable and walked right back out again. The sidewalks were mostly clear. There were some instances where there was still snow where the sidewalk meets the street but what really got me were those sidewalk where one guy shovels his sidewalk to a certain point and his neighbour shovels to a certain point and there is a small size in between maybe the size of 5 shovelfuls. What did they both get a property assessment and since it didn't belong to either of them they ain't doing it?

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RE: MY IGNORANCE IN THINGS I TOOK FOR GRANTED

Thank you Christa, for that fantastic blog.  Some of the things instilled in me by the different Fathers I've had over the years have been enlightening.  Canada and the United States like to think they are "light years" ahead of everyone else.  In many regards that is true -- but in other regards it isn't.  I know how some people may negatively react to this statement, but what an Altar Boy picks up at a Catholic Parish, with a union coal-miner for a dad and a maid for a mother in a quasi-Socialist country about "handicapped" people (Ireland) is sure different than what he learns in a quasi-"Religious" Republican society like America!  American Folks cluck their tongues and long for the days of the 'good-ole Country church' where they walked up 16 stairs to get inside, and sigh that it doesn't exist anymore.  Irish people see a building like the 'good-ole Country church' and realize a ramp needs to be built at the front door so EVERYONE can get inside!

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and on the other side of our block is a large Sobey's grocery ..... on nice days the senior's like to walk to the store .... but with all this snow they avoid the side walks ... they walk right up the middle of the street and I don't blame them ..... except for the odd car, it's safer, as there's no ice or snow and the road is fairly even ....

but when they get to Sobey's they have an obstacle course to get through to get to the front door ..... I've harped and complained to town council, fire dept. and police to enforce the town bylaws about vehicles in the tow away zones near the entrances ...... the store management says it's not their job to tell their customers to move their cars ..... but it's perfect okay to force seniors to dodge between parked running cars to get to the door ... some one is going to get hurt  .. but it's not the stores responsibility and the town refuses to enforce the bylaw ....

Christa, I hear you .... the plaze where our local bank branch is has handicapped parking at the other end ... not near the bank at all .... the landlord of the plaza only has to put so many handicapped spots and he gets to decide where he puts them .... in the heat of summer when a person just can't breathe because of poor air, I don't go there .... I drive 20 minutes to the next town where I can park near the door ....  and I've complained to the bank and there's nothing they say they can do ..... so whenever I get the customer service surveys to do for that branch I always point ot that they are not handicap accessible and that the branch should be relocated or petition the plaza landlord to correct the situation .... I think this summer when there's another heat wave I'm going to call Human Rights Canada and have them investigate ...

I told the bank that I can do most of my banking online but when it comes to the important thing, putting money in, they are making it hard for me to .... not a good thing for a bank, they should want to make it very easy for you to put money in

I gave up on stores that over crowd their aisles ages ago ... I'm not great in crowded places as it is .. rarely go to the Mall anymore, too many kids hanging out and no room to move ... we only go to movies on off nights and to shows that are almost finished their runs .... it's not that a person can't get around, it more the inconsiderate people who make it difficult for you to or who huff and puff behind you because you're slower than they are and you're in front ... I'm sorry but crowded Malls don't have "slow lanes" like on the freeway ...

hehehe .... Christa, you made a rant!  .... sure got me up in arms!  LOL 

(((hugs))) sorry to hear your outing today wasn't as nice as you'd hoped it would be

 

 

 

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what really got me

6 years ago I had to go to a sheltar but I had to go to one in another town (about 20 minutes away) because the shelter in this town only had stairs. Geez and this is a government thing. I noticed most parking lots are set up that handicap parking is across a driving lane from to store and some people are just into much of a hurry to let you cross. For the most part it was a good day, the P.O wasn't crowded, No Frills wasn't crowded and the asles wide. Just wal-mart and that section is just so crowded on holidays but in order to get to the rest of the store you have to go through those people. heehee on the slow lane like that person behind you has nowhere to be fast.

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Thank you,

Thanks for bringing something to our attention that everyone needs to consider.  I've heard people with two perfectly good legs, feet complain about how the handicapped parking is always in front.  I want those people to know that it is not always that easy for the handicapped to get around.  Those people have also complained that the spaces are empty so often.  For myself, I've taken to parking in the outer areas because I'm tired of all the little dents & dings inconsiderate people have put in my car because they are not careful when they open the doors on their cars.  If I see someone with a walker or in a motorized cart, I will stop and hold the door open for them or for a mom with small children & a stroller.  I remember when you just don't have enough hands!  Several years ago my mom had to start using a walker, she wasn't happy about it but without it she kept falling and was unable to get around much.  It made me very concious of the fact that not everyone is able to move around as easliy as I do.  It was certainly a lesson to be more caring of others.

Katherine, keep after your bank.  Here in the US where I am all the handicap places are near the building---seems only reasonable that that is the best place for them. 

Great subject/discussion.  I hope more people stop to read and are just a little more considerate of others with less mobility.

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How about slippery bathroom floors...

I have an aunt who has trouble walking.  She has to use the handicap bathroom because of her rheumatoid athritis (she can hardly bend even with hip and knee replacements).  One day, we went out to dinner and a play.  She goes into the handicapped stall and calls out.  I can't get up. the floor is too slippery (she's in sneakers so she's done everything she can but the floor is just too slippery).  She and I have a great relationship so I offer her to go under the door and help her up.  She accepts.  And this is what i had to do.  I had to pull her up while keeping her feet in place so she wouldn't slip.

Needless to say we told the restaurant people about their floors.

Around where I live things are pretty good.  the handicapped parkings are in good spots.  Usually, they closest to the doors.

While I lived in Quebec city, they had young family parking spaces, too, right next to the handicapped ones.  they were for pregnant women as well as families with small infants.  This concept isn't spreading as fast as I would have liked.  It's not as popular here in the Ottawa area but I have seen it at malls.

Great topic!  I have to admit that thanks to my aunt, I notice all those things like access to buildings and parking spaces.  I always wonder how she would fare if she were there.

Good blog!

Good blog!

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on crosswalks...

Great topic, Christa!

One positive thing I have noticed around where I live is that all new buildings are installing handicap buttons at their entrances and exits.  That way the door will open when the button is pushed. 

My children and I like to walk down to the lake when the weather is nice.  We only have to cross one busy road/intersection to get there; the rest is all side streets.  The intersection has stop lights and walking signals.  One thing that always makes me livid is when we get our turn to walk across, but can't because the folks aren't paying attention, and they are driving across our walkway.  And eventually we make a mad dash across.  What about the people who cannot make a mad dash?  I guess that's more of a society issue than government....but people need to pay attention.  I don't think they would sleep well if they hit us.  Sorry, I guess that's a little off topic. Innocent

Our grocery stores do not have in front of store handicap parking.  You do have to cross where everyone is driving.  Back in California where I used to live, there was always front row handicap parking....and some places had "stork" parking, like Kel was talking about above.  I remember loving those parking spots when I was eight to nine months pregnant. 

Katherine...I agree, one would think banks would want to make it as easy as possible to get your money.Smile

Christa, I hate crowds too....I was in Wal-Mart over the weekend, doing my Easter shopping, and I know exactly what you are talking about.

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What an excellent blog!

    I know just what you mean... my sister's in a wheelchair and has been her whole life (cerebral palsy) and you wouldn't believe... well actually I guess you would!) the obstacles in the way.  Things that people with no mobility problem have no concept of... the sidewalk illustration is a perfect example.
    And with an aging population more and more people are using walkers and scooters and independence is a very important part of human dignity. 

   As for people parking in and / or blocking access to disabled parking spots or the front of the stores, I just feel like going up to them and ... I don't know... losing it!
   I can't count the number of times I see vehicles parked all along the front of the Safeway or Sobeys stores.  Granted if you're running in for a couple of items it can be a pain in the neck, but what about all the people that have to really work just to get in and out of their vehicle. 

With so many people it's all about them and to heck with anyone else.  Sheesh!   And uh, yeah... this heading out onto a rant thing is contagious....

Definitely a hot-button topic Christa... and a necessary one as well!

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thanks for chiming in everyone

Thanks to everyone for chiming in and sharing their experiences. Rant away, looks like a rant worthy topic. I was just letting off steam. I like that they make the handicap parking spots a little bigger. If my friend is driving me, she has a large Ford 4x4 and my parents have a mini van. It seems they only make parking spots for small compact cars.

I've seen a few places where they have those mommy to be or new mommy parking spots.

Excuse my ignorance here because I don't have a scooter but for those buttons wouldn't you have to lean way forward to press it and some open outward so a person has to move back really fast to avoid getting hit

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Great topic.  Since my

Great topic.  Since my father-in-law got so sick years ago and had a handicap card...we have really noticed the handicapped parking, and we really hate when we see people who are not handicapped park in the handicap spots.

 

Kathy D

More,

Christa, I don't know anything about the scooter but I think the controls are usually by hand & it is located for easy access by the person using the scooter.  Also, I wanted to add that here in California lots of the handicapped spaces have a wide marked area that gives people a place to put their wheelchair while getting out of the car and getting settled into the chair/scooter or to get a hold on the walker.  It gives them an area where they aren't in danger of getting in the way of a car door or someone parking to close to their vehicle.  I hope I made that clear as to what I mean!

Happy Easter weekend to all.  Great discussion.  I'm glad to see so many people here making comments. Smile

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I think there is a difference

I think there might be differences in some of those automatic doors. Most I've seen are right by the door. I've seen a few where they are more out so they would be level with a person in a scooter. Yeah I noticed that about the handicap parking, the spaces are almost the sizes of two spots

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There was an ad here a few years ago

that basically had a handicapped person saying "If you take my spot, take my handicap with it"

What we need to remember is that all handicaps are not visible Laughing
and somebody not visibly handicapped who parks in a handicap spot is
proclaiming loudly and clearly that he is mentally handicapped or
socially handicapped, and that degree of selfishness and disregard for
others is a MAJOR handicap!

When I see well-dressed men and women
in big company cars (with logos advertising the company) park in
handicapped spots, I note the company name and phone number, the car
reg and then I phone up the company, ask to speak to their PR director,
let him note the car reg details and then congratulate him on the
company's behalf for awarding such an important position in the company
to a handicapped person. If he says "ah but Mr so-and-so isn't
handicapped" I reply that he must be, that no executive of such a great
company would give them such bad and Politically Incorrect publicity as
to park in an undeserved handicapped spot. And add that I sincerely
hope that the person in question never discovers what it's like to need
the handicapped space and find it occupied by some other selfish,
impatient, rushed, inconsiderate, egocentric person. It's quite amusing
to hear the spluttering and the embarrassed silence on the other end
before I take pity on the PR director and hang up.

As for buildings, a lot of buildings pay lip service to the code
that requires handicapped accesses and facilities, but I've always
maintained they should either have them tested by handicapped people
prior to handover or get the building inspectors to use wheelchairs
and/or glasses to reduce their eyesight to legally blind levels so they
can "see" for themselves what the problems are. Because some new
buildings have been so badly designed that they're not up to code,
though officially they fulfil all the statutory requirements.

Hugs

Sadhbh

 

And then there are the

And then there are the elevators in the Metro that don't work, so the person that really needs them has to go to the next stop or back track.Undecided

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Oh FF ....

to me that's criminal ....

 

Sadhbh, thank you for stepping up ..... it's amazing what a little shame can do to "open" up some eyes to see the plight of others ..... people today are so wrapped up in their won lives they don't know how to slow down and look around and become aware of their environment .... and usually those are the people that when they break a leg and suddenly discover that their favourite places don't accommodate them, scream the loudest  ... I am thankful though that eventually most people do "see"

 and yes, not all disabilities can be seen ..... be they physical or mental .... so one needs to remember always to show everyone the respect they themselves would like to receive ....

I've had a continuing battle with my older brother since my Dad passed away in 2005 .... he stays with Mom often in the winter as he runs a snow plowing co. in our hometown .... I had to go out and buy two snow shovels ... one for the top of the stairs, so he could use it on his way down ... and one for the bottom of the stairs that he could use it as he went up ... and then he'd still just walk on by and say I'm in a rush now but I'll get to it later ..... all it takes is 2 minutes to clear a path that is safe to walk on .... no, he has to trample down the snow because he's in a hurry and this only turns it into ice .... so I had to shame him .... I asked him how much I needed to pay him a week to make sure Mom's steps and path were snow free and ice free .... and that I needed him to promise that Mom was his first customer, not anyone else and that I knew I'd have to pay for that extra service ... he got angry and said I was being ridiculous and that no one had to pay ... I said yes I did, because I needed to know that Mom would always come first, and paying customers seemed to mean more to him than she did .... well, sometimes "shame" works ... it opens eyes  ..... just in January Mom slipped on the steps (her fault not anyone else's, wrong shoes) and she ended up with 3 stitches to the back of her head but could so easily have broken her hip or worse  ...

we need to "open" our eyes and see the hazards around us .... a few minutes is all it takes to make a path safe or to remove obstacles that can harm someone  .... the results of an accident can be so scarey, esp. with the elderly .... if you become immobilized and can't get up that's when pneumonia can set in, and if you have a weakened immune system that can kill .... all because someone didn't move that shovel five more times

 

 

 

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