As a prepublished author and one who's enjoyed participating in all the different contests offered by eHQN (both official contests and the ones on the writing challenges board), I've discovered something very important about my writing.
I don't know who I want to be when I grow up.
I love to read Romantic Suspense, but I don't know if I can write it . I enjoy the steamier side of romance with Blaze and Spice, but I'm not quite sure if it's my voice, either. I'm a vamp girl all the way, and I'm in the midst of trying my hand at Nocturne Bites. And I've got one nearly completed Superromance that's dying to get out the door, and another one screaming at me to work on it.
So how do I pick which line to target???? I like them all! Do I really need to pick one line, and stick with it? Or should I just write what I want, and give them all a try?
I can't be the only one in this boat, right?
JodieG
Prepublished and workin' to change that!
A winner of the Big Finish 2 Contest, March 2008!
Participating author in Pass the Plot, Summer 2008







When I started writing I
When I started writing I decided to target Desire. My reasons for doing so are totally laughable but I won't go there. Anyway it took me a few years to get the hang of what Desire was really about, and I started getting requests. For my second request I wrote a story that I just LOVED. I finally found my voice, and even after reading through it countless times I still can't believe I actually wrote it. I was soooo sure that was the one. I was a thousand percent positive that was the one. (And believe me, for me to be that positive about my writing is really weird.)
Three days after I submitted it Desire changed guidelines and my story was never even considered. Added with all other the nonsense going on in my life at that time, don't worry, not going there, either, I was devastated. I wallowed for a few days and started looking for another line to target as I knew the new guidelines just weren't for me.
I'm now targeting two lines, and have gotten requests from both. One is still under consideration, the second is almost ready for submission.
So my long, drawn out point is - no, you don't have to pick just one line. And in some cases it's actually better to be able to write for more one line. I truly thought I was sunk when Desire changed, but have since discovered there are other lines and stories to get excited about.
Erica Orloff writes across
Erica Orloff writes across lines and across genres and she manages to do it. See http://www.ericaorloff.com/blog/; the entry entitle "Voice".
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Ooh, Jodie, scary topic!
LOL. While some of the lines are very different, say comparing a Spice to a Steeple Hill book, others are more similar. Like SSE's and Desires. One might be able to bounce from one line to the other without a lot of trouble. But I'm not sure, and I wish I was, because I need to know the answer myself.
It's hard to always contain yourself to just one sub-genre. If you're like me, you might sometimes feel like a pulse-racing Harl Intrigue. Or you might feel in a Red Dress's Sex-in-the-City kind of mood. Still, on other days you may want, as you mentioned, to take a bite out of life, literally, with Nocturnes.
If you're really trying to find your niche(s), you might try writing something short (a practice piece) for all the lines that you're interested in. That way you'll get a taste of them all. It's similar to what I did with Chinese food. A nibble here, a nibble there. And so far, I've found some I like and some that I don't. Food, books. Books, food. I'm getting hungry, can you tell?
"Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see."
- Mark Twain
Thanks, ladies!
Sandy Sue, the novel I wrote for Super (which I'm still trying to nail down!) was written when Supers were 80-85K. Then they got bumped to 70-75K. So I played with that. Just when I thought I was ready to submit, I went back to the guidelines and saw they were 60-65K. EEK! I've got to get the book off my desk before WC changes again!!
Thanks for the link, FakeFrenchie! I'll check it out.
And Amanda, that's sort of what I do with the writing challenges. I try different styles. But it's not helping me narrow it down, LOL. Right now, though, I'm working with Supers and Nocturne. We'll see how they go, and go from there, I guess!
JodieG
Prepublished and workin' to change that!
A winner of the Big Finish 2 Contest, March 2008!
Participating author in Pass the Plot, Summer 2008
Voice of dissension
Hey, great question Jodie and one I'm particularly fond of, actually.
When I started I didn't know what I wanted to write either. I wrote one and sent it to Presents. Sent off a Desire. And a Steeple Hill. And a Romance. And a few others as well.
And I got the odd request....but nothing was really taking.
But you know, once I clued in that my voice was Romance, things moved quickly. It wasn't so much WHAT I wrote but HOW I wrote it. Could I branch across lines? Sure. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm interested in SUpers and SSE and American. But I think I had to find my "home" first before I could see myself doing that.
Someone once told me to write for a line that I could envision myself writing 10, 20, 30 books for. That's good advice. A fun chick lit might be exciting, but could you write more than one?
A lot of the prepublished process is exploring this and finding it out, so enjoy it because you will keep learning all the way. And when you get the call you'll be really ready.
Just my 2 cents,
Donna
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Good advice, Donna....
...and I think you do terrific in the Romance line! I can however also imagine you writing for SSE and the American romance lines. I think your style would fit right in with those two.
So many possibilities, so little time.... lol.
"Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see."
- Mark Twain
Thanks, Donna!
That makes sense, actually. And I'm probably mostly suited to Supers, when it comes down to it. When I think of the ideas I have for stories, most of them would fit best there.
I think my biggest (emotional!) issue is worrying about focusing on the "wrong" place.What if I'm really a Nocturne author just waiting to hatch, and I'm spending all my time focused on Supers and getting nowhere? I know it's not wasting time, but you know what I mean.....
I guess it's all just part of "paying my dues!"
JodieG
Prepublished and workin' to change that!
A winner of the Big Finish 2 Contest, March 2008!
Participating author in Pass the Plot, Summer 2008
Jodie....
Something else to think about is which line do you read from the most? There's surely one that you're more drawn to than the rest, isn't there? Personally, I don't think I'd ever try to write for a line that I didn't normally read from, or didn't care for that much. Though I might be able to write for any line (not that I can), if it didn't come from the heart it wouldn't be quite right, and I'd be sure to get tired of it. Writer's block or burnout in the middle of writing the book your editor is expecting would probably NOT be a good thing!
I think about these possibilities all the time, Jodie. You're not the only one. Hope you can take some amount of comfort from that. I love how everyone here on eHarl supports each other. It's great.
"Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see."
- Mark Twain
wow
Today is the first day I've been able to read a few threads....and I'm so happy to have found this site. Growing up, I always looked at Harlequin as a certain type of book. Romance on a high level let's say. Well, I've been reading Christian Romance novels (novellas) for about two years now and I'm hooked. I've always writen stories (for myself) but since reading my first Christian Romance I jumped into writing one. So, the idea I had has taken these two years to take shape and is almost done. I'm so amazed at this site and feel encredibly blessed to have found it...and all of you. Can't wait to learn and get to know all of you!
Everything happens for a reason and there is a silver lining to everything!
wow
Today is the first day I've been able to read a few threads....and I'm so happy to have found this site. Growing up, I always looked at Harlequin as a certain type of book. Romance on a high level let's say. Well, I've been reading Christian Romance novels (novellas) for about two years now and I'm hooked. I've always writen stories (for myself) but since reading my first Christian Romance I jumped into writing one. So, the idea I had has taken these two years to take shape and is almost done. I'm so amazed at this site and feel encredibly blessed to have found it...and all of you. Can't wait to learn and get to know all of you!
Everything happens for a reason and there is a silver lining to everything!
Nice to meet you, Lavender....
And welcome! I'm sure you're going to like meeting everybody on eHarl! One thing's for certain, although everyone has their unique preference for the Harl lines (from Steeple Hill all the way to Spice), the one thing we ALL share in common is our LOVE of reading! For a lot of us, we also share our love of writing, as well.
Have fun on the site!
"Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see."
- Mark Twain
I'm landing on both sides...
I've been watching this and waiting to see what folks would say, and in my heart, I agree with Donna -- I knew I wanted to write Blaze, and I think you have to really know a line and know that you can stay there for a while, because that's typically how it works.
I say typically with a lot of stress, however, because I know several authors who have sold, even on their first and second sales, to different lines, and had mulitple sales across lines or across publishers, even. Also, writers who have 2 or 3 books in a line sometimes easily branch into other lines very early on, like Kim Van Meter.
I love Blaze, and I tried to write for other lines, but found I didn't have much success with them -- and I do read them, but reading is a very different thing than writing. You should read the line you write for, IOW, but just because you read something doesn't mean you'll be able to write it.
I've been experimenting and writing other things, some of them unexpected, as I find other things I can do, because I think you do need variety and you need need to stretch and find other places to write. You may sell 20 or 30 books to a line or more, or you may do 10 and find your voice is changing and you'll go elsewhere.
So, I would say, focus on a line you feel you want to write for -- a line you really click with, and make that your main plan, because yes, once you sell, they will want more from you and you should be able to deliver. But don't cut off other opportunities or stop yourself from writing other stuff, either. That doesn't make any sense -- if you want to write something for Spice and it's calling to you, then write it.
However, I don't think there's any danger of you "missing" the line you are supposed to be writing for... I don't know why, but I think it kind of works out. If you were supposed to be writing for Nocturne, or whatever, those stories would be coming out of you, regardless... Also, eds will know -- if your story is a Super and not a Blaze, they will know and redirect you.
Which is maybe the best way of coming at it, period -- write the story you have to tell, and then see where it might fit, rather than trying to fit a story to a line. Some writers find, in the end, that they weren't suited to category at all, but ST.
It's a journey, and not often a straight path. ;)
Sam
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Sam....
"I love Blaze, and I tried to write for other lines, but found I didn't have much success with them -- and I do read them, but reading is a very different thing than writing. You should read the line you write for, IOW, but just because you read something doesn't mean you'll be able to write it."
This is very true. For instance, I read mysteries occasionally and enjoy them, but I really have no desire to write one (and probably couldn't if I tried). However, I think if a person keeps reading books from one line over and over, it's a pretty strong indication that at least that's where their main interest is. Whether they can write for it or not is another story.....
There's no better advice than from someone who has experience and knows what she's talking about! Thanks, Sam! Your answer has helped me as much as Jodie, I think!
"Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see."
- Mark Twain
Interesting question
Hi Jodie
This is a question that I feel I want to answer on both sides - but from experience, I know that authors can write for different lines - I've done it myself. Look back at my publishing history and you'll see some of my earlier books were published in Harlequin Romance, not Harlequin Presents. That's because I started being published in the UK in the days before the lines were split, so I just wrote a 'Mills & Boon Romance' and editorial decided what line it went into.
But it's possibly not the best idea for someone starting out. You need to make your name in publishing and you need to build up a readership - and to so that they need to know where they can find your books and what sort of books you're writing so that can stick with you if they like you. I know that starting out with books in 2 different lines meant that I split my audience.
Sometimes the difference between lines can seems so minute, and sometimes it can seem that all you have to do is just write a 'Presents plot' instead of a 'Romance plot' and that will make your book fit the line you're aiming for. And that just isn't true. It's tone and intensity - and voice that make a book fit a line.
I've worked with so many unpublished authors, and the hardest thing is deciding just which line they belong in - not which line they want to write for, or the line they love reading the most, or even the line they are most 'qualified' to write (just because you work as a nurse doesn't mean you're naturally best writing Medicals, for example.) You need to look at how you write naturally - the way you want to write without any restrictions and without any guidelines in mind.
Do you want to write gentle, emotional stories, or heated, passionate, intense ones? Do you find it easy and enjoyable to write sensually charged stories or would you find it embarrassing and difficult to go 'beyond the bedroom door'? Do you prefer a more realistic, 'guy next door' hero or a fantasy, difficult, intense male lead?
I know that when I was told that the lines were being split and I needed to choose to write for one or the other, I chose M&B Modern/Presents for two reasons - one was that I was happier dealing in difficult conflicts, deep and intense and passionate - and that was because - two - my characters always got so deeply serious and intense about everything.
So I'm going to agree that yes you can write for different lines - but it's not necessarily the best bet at the beginning. And I'm going to agree with Donna (well, I have to - bcause I was the one who said that! .) that you need to look for a line where you can see yourself writing not just this one book that you hope to get published but book after book after book - without getting bored or stale. Because you love the sort of stories the line tells.
And I'm going to agree with Sam when she says:
focus on a line you feel you want to write for -- a line you really click with, and make that your main plan, because yes, once you sell, they will want more from you and you should be able to deliver.
And she's right too that you don't cut off other opportunities or stop yourself from writing other stuff, either.
Explore writing, enjoy it. And you'll discover what you were meant to write.We all need time and effort to find our natural voice. If we're not careful, then we can end up just copying the style of a line rather than writing from our hearts - and that always shows. The only way to find what comes naturally to you as a writer is to write. Write the story you most want to tell. The one that makes your heart sing as you're writing it.
I originally thought I wanted to write for children - then I thought I wanted to write Historical novels - then I found romance and loved it - but it was only when I focused on Presents that I knew I'd come home.
Good luck in finding your own writing 'home'.
Kate
http://www.kate-walker.com
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Kate....
This is off-subject a bit, but you mentioned you'd once considered writing for children. I've always heard that they are the hardest books in the world to write, because vocabulary and subject matter are somewhat limited (okay, IMO, a lot limited). People have often asked me why I don't attempt to write for children, since I have my own DD (her name is Katie, btw). The truth is, I love children. However, when I try to brainstorm for kid's stories, I have a heck of a time! I get stuck! Guess, my mind is more geared to adult themes.
Have you ever submitted any children's ms's?
Oh, and about Jodie 'finding her voice', I thought what she meant was that her ideas don't fit into one or two particular lines. For instance, one story might be appropriate for HP, one for SRS, and one for Blaze perhaps. She's got so many ideas that it's clouding things for her a bit. I should know, because I've struggled with the same issue. Fortunately, I think I've found that SSE works for me. I find myself moving with a flow that fits that line. Also, it allows for a lot of variation, which I enjoy.
Of, course I'm definitely a novice...and my advice isn't really advice, but more like I'm bouncing my ideas off of Jodie's.
I enjoyed reading your suggestions, Kate! Jodie will probably agree that we pre-publishees need all the 'Author' advice we can get!
"Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see."
- Mark Twain